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06-08-2012 01:09 AM  6 years agoPost 1
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Is it time for Chicken Flavored Ice Cream ???

Who Ya Gona Call ?????

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06-08-2012 05:13 AM  6 years agoPost 2
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Pretty disturbing tough stuff being up loaded almost hourly

Sad they slaughtering citizen's - The Ruling party

The FSA has some real courage.

Independence and Freedom against T- 72's

Maybe the Arab States Can Stop It ????

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06-08-2012 09:01 AM  6 years agoPost 3
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Something is not right with this Syria uprising IMHO,i do not believe the government is wholly to blame or indeed responsible for all of the killings.Some report the uprising started with the usual Sh,ite,Sunni divisions.The killings will not stop i would bet even if NATO intervenes.Dark forces at work"AGAIN"in the middle east.Perpetual chaos seems to be the order of the day,if they cant stop fighting each other they cannot fight enemies or support their allies in the region,one being Iran

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06-08-2012 02:06 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Looks to me like something just to pull the USA into.

Stay out of it.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-08-2012 02:14 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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It's the ONE single thing I'll give Obama credit for. Leave us out of this one. He could one up that by getting us out of Afghanistan....like yesterday.

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06-08-2012 02:17 PM  6 years agoPost 6
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Syria /------------The Proxy
The Nation has long been a staging Proxy for Iran just to it's location to Israel

Certain Forces have alway's slipped in unaware : Most likely they are not forces from the homeland killing the civilian's.

Major purchasing area for wares from China and Russia and the broker is right in the middle. Hence their lack of acknowledgment of aid to cease from either of them in the U.N.

Their has always been a transit from Iran into Syria. Even prior to the Iraq issue - truck's for 17 months during UN negotiations where rushing in from Iraq.

The UN is looking for help ? from China ? Russia ? or Iran ? or any other Muslim States.

Let's hope they don't go diggin stuff up

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06-08-2012 02:20 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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There are to many people in that region that seem to get a kick out of killing each other off.

Russia gets a profit on arms sales.

One big happy family.

As long as it stays contained, let em have at it.

To sacrifice our treasures for a vague target that may not be a target is foolish and careless.

Even supplying arms to someone over there is stupid. Those same arms are liable to be turned against us.

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06-08-2012 03:16 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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Religious extremism and tribalism are a curse in the Middle east,its hard to believe we are living in 2012 sometimes

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06-08-2012 03:25 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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we'll be saying the same thing 100 years from now, if any of us are left to say it. I've been saying for years: put a fence around the middle east and airdrop in all the guns and ammo they can handle and let them wipe themselves out.

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06-08-2012 04:17 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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That's has occurred a long time ago - just pick it up off the street's.

Now for terror control the proxies are getting creative.

SICK is not even a measure

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06-08-2012 06:59 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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Maybe the Arab States Can Stop It ????
Arab states are keeping it going by supplying the 'rebels' with arms, with US approval of course.
The killings will not stop i would bet even if NATO intervenes
Indeed. I expect killings would increase with direct NATO military intervention, since that's what usually happens.

First of all we were told the Syrian army was responsible for the Houla massacre, then when it became apparent they were shelling the area from a distance, we were told 'pro-government militia' (whoever they are supposed to be) were responsible. But, why would the Syrian army have been shelling an area if pro-government militia were there? Also, why would any 'pro-government' anybody want to massacre civilians in the first place, provoking international outrage, when the regime is trying to restore law and order?

Here is an example.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/06/...ow-control.html

The story we are being told doesn't add up. If the Syrian army was shelling an area, chances are the 'rebels' were in control of it, since they are who the army is fighting.

The 'rebels' (whoever they are) have much to gain by international outrage being invoked, while the regime has much to lose. Given that these 'rebels' reportedly include Al Qaeda members, and people of similar mindset, the most likely scenario would be that they carried out the massacre, with the intention of blaming it on the regime, in order to spark international outrage to increase the likelihood of foreign military intervention. Knowing of course that western politicians and mainstream press would go along with their version of events, since they are backing the 'rebels.'

The Assad regime quite rightly refers to the 'rebels' as terrorists, as we would if they were doing the same in our countries. So it looks like yet again, our governments are supporting radical Islamic terrorists.

Some say the decision to attack Syria was made years ago.

Watch at YouTube

Straight from the U.S. Army Special Forces Unconventional Warfare Training Manual November 2010
1-1. The intent of U.S. UW efforts is to exploit a hostile power’s political, military, economic, and psychological vulnerabilities by developing and sustaining resistance forces to accomplish U.S. strategic objectives. Historically, the military concept for the employment of UW was primarily in support of resistance movements during general-war scenarios. While this concept remains valid, the operational environment since the end of World War II has increasingly required U.S. forces to conduct UW in scenarios short of general war (limited war).

1-2. Enabling a resistance movement or insurgency entails the development of an underground and guerrilla forces, as well as supporting auxiliaries for each of these elements. Resistance movements or insurgencies always have an underground element....

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06-08-2012 07:12 PM  6 years agoPost 12
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Religious extremism and tribalism are a curse in the Middle east,its hard to believe we are living in 2012 sometimes
While the west was having the industrial revolution, the middle east was mostly colonised by the Ottomans. When they finally gained 'independence' (albeit with puppet dictators) after the world wars, their societies were backward and most people were illiterate - prime candidates for religion.

Of course they are still backward compared to our societies, but it would be unrealistic to expect them to have caught up completely, particularly as we keep invading their countries, supporting radical Islamic terrorists, and propping up oppressive dictators.
I've been saying for years: put a fence around the middle east and airdrop in all the guns and ammo they can handle and let them wipe themselves out.
As Wesley Clark said in the video I posted, ''If there was no oil in the middle east, it would be like Africa.''

Africans are not generally known to 'hate' the west, and the west is not generally known to prop up oppressive rulers and invade countries in Africa (- with the recent exception of Libya where there is oil, and Egypt which is next to Israel and contains the Suez canal.) People in the middle east are generally known to 'hate' the west, and the west is generally known for propping up oppressive rulers and invading countries in the middle east. Coincidence? I think not.

Here's an excellent article by Ron Paul:

http://antiwar.com/paul/

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06-08-2012 09:48 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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Your Ideology is so warped and twisted it's hard to even fathom: Utter Shame
Arab states are keeping it going by supplying the 'rebels' with arms, with US approval of course.
OF Course !!! : That's why they are terrified that " WE AIn't COmming" to save their empire !!!!! It is a tinder box
Leon Panetta is in Afghanistan and Iraq-- NOW : Iran In {BETWEEN} with one eye on the Pakistani's and " Who's INSIDE THEIR ????
killings would increase with direct NATO military intervention, since that's what usually happens.
OF Course !!!! : NEW's ! WHitey and Blacky and Jerry and Yank ain't coming - Our Blood is OUR Blood - The Answer is NOPE ! No more Blue Berry Blood
NATO can find some Chinese or Soviet Manufactures for warranty work
they were shelling the area from a distance, we were told 'pro-government militia' (whoever they are supposed to be) were responsible.
Followed BY : OF COURSE

But, why would the Syrian army have been shelling an area if pro-government militia were there? Also, why would any 'pro-government' anybody want to massacre civilians in the first place, provoking international outrage, when the regime is trying to restore law and order?
Your assumption they " Syrian Government " actually know what they are doing is ridiculous.

The Proxies have nothing but new uniforms / Chinese Boot's and a promise. Syria is not their home land.
They are literally firing large bore artillery without any form of fire support or communication. No ranging or targeting -It' is WILD { Just point That Big Sucker North -and push this here ! }

Interesting ! is the Urban Tank 's or even the Open Territory stuff.

FSA is taking them down by hand- & are they creative and smart. They trap them one at a time.

George would be proud !!!!!! and laughing his Azz Off

Our's was: Give us liberty or give us death

Theirs is something similar : Independence or WE Die Trying. FSA

One look at a tank battalion - in which the only communication is verbal " Shouting " :

To see them bunched up on a Asphalt highway with open level field on either side is hilarious! Especially when half of them can't even find reverse
or know how to get untangled. Yelling at each other and waving hands all about - but the uniform's are nice

What you have Sir Dusty:

Is some one who doe's not own it -- but will not give it to those that DO own it ---and be darn if they are going to let the country's REal Government control it

It's a Carnival with no one in charge.

Lot of Mom's going to wonder where their kid's are

Hey Koffie We will get back to ya on that one OK ??

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06-09-2012 05:45 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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Rutt Roww : Some bodies at the door trying to sell cookies

Koffie Want's a meeting

Some body pick up the Phone

Stan Ain't Home / What do you want US to do ?????

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06-09-2012 08:10 AM  6 years agoPost 15
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^^^^Thats some strong stuff your on there Grey What are you wittering on about

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06-09-2012 06:24 PM  6 years agoPost 16
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Sick to see what some of the proxy import leadership is doing to the X - pAt's & FSA : and then putting out to spook em.

War Crime . Period Specially when it's on film

Gona be REAL interesting if some body doesn't get it together.

Sad part the Iran Citizen Ship is Absolutely FEd UP ! : It's Primed

Keep Us Posted Shaw

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06-09-2012 10:55 PM  6 years agoPost 17
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Your Ideology is so warped and twisted it's hard to even fathom: Utter Shame
Arab states are keeping it going by supplying the 'rebels' with arms, with US approval of course.
OF Course !!!
It's not ''ideology,'' it's what is happening. There are numerous reports in the press. For example:
(Washington Post) Syrian rebels battling the regime of President Bashar al-Assad have begun receiving significantly more and better weapons in recent weeks, an effort paid for by Persian Gulf nations and coordinated in part by the United States, according to opposition activists and U.S. and foreign officials.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502223_...o-syria-rebels/
Your assumption they " Syrian Government " actually know what they are doing is ridiculous.
The Proxies have nothing but new uniforms / Chinese Boot's and a promise. Syria is not their home land.
They are literally firing large bore artillery without any form of fire support or communication. No ranging or targeting -It' is WILD { Just point That Big Sucker North -and push this here ! }
I'm not sure why you are referring to the regime as ''proxies'' and that Syria is not ''their homeland.'' Alawites have traditionally lived in Syria ever since records began, and Bashar Assad was born in Syria. Of course he doesn't represent the majority of the population - dictators rarely do.

Perhaps you would care to tell us which country you think ''their homeland'' is?

By middle east standards, the Syrian armed forces are fairly powerful. Considerably more powerful than Gaddafi's armed forces were, for example.
FSA is taking them down by hand- & are they creative and smart. They trap them one at a time.

George would be proud !!!!!! and laughing his Azz Off
Our's was: Give us liberty or give us death
Theirs is something similar : Independence or WE Die Trying. FSA
The so-called 'FSA' comprises various armed groups / insurgents / terrorists, who are not unified as for example the 'rebels' in Libya were. I'm not sure why you express so much support for them, and can only guess you have an unrealistic view of them. Or perhaps I should say your view is ''so warped and twisted it's hard to even fathom.''

What you will find is that the 'FSA' and so any regime that emerges from it to replace Assad, will likely be an ally of the US, because it will owe it's existence to the US. As it is, Syria is of course an ally of Russia, China and Iran. That is why the US is supporting the 'FSA.'

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06-10-2012 01:10 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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What you will find is that the 'FSA' and so any regime that emerges from it to replace Assad, will likely be an ally of the US, because it will owe it's existence to the US. As it is, Syria is of course an ally of Russia, China and Iran. That is why the US is supporting the 'FSA.'
Yes, And with the current regime in the Whitehouse it will probably turn out like Egypt, with another radical Muslim regime in charge and more terrorism to look forward to.

And if you're wondering, no, I do not support the current regimes in either Syria or the Whitehouse.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-10-2012 08:36 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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One of the good things about the internet is that folks,if they have the"mind" to can listen to a news report and if you have the"mind"to question can use many sources to get a much more balanced view of the world.Its like a group of extreme right or left wing "Cheerleaders"folks get bored with the same old groups shouting the same old nonsense and look on them as a bunch of fools to mock.Long live free thinking

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06-10-2012 11:56 PM  6 years agoPost 20
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Yes, And with the current regime in the Whitehouse it will probably turn out like Egypt, with another radical Muslim regime in charge and more terrorism to look forward to.
I agree whatever new regime might emerge in Syria it's likely to be more radical than what went before, as has happened in Egypt, Iraq and Libya etc. Egypt is slightly different though as the government answers to the military (which still receives US 'aid', whereas it's the other way around in Syria and was the same in Libya under Gaddafi.

Radical Muslim regimes seems to be what our governments support these days in the middle east though. They would rather have a radical regime that acts in the interests of the west, rather than a less radical one that acts in it's own interests.

Personally I don't support either the Assad regime or it's opposition. Assad promised reform a decade ago and it looks like he's left it too late, and his regime will cease to exist one way or another in the not too distant future. Still, I think diplomacy is preferable to killing and the Russian and Chinese solution is more in the interests of ordinary Syrians than our governments' solution of supporting violence.
China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Liu Weimin said that “Beijing firmly opposes military intervention in Syria because such a method cannot fundamentally solve the crisis.” He expressed hope that “all parties in Syria will concretely implement their commitment of cease-fire and cessation of violence.” He added that “Damascus should also shoulder its responsibility and the same is true for the opposition groups.”

http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-n...ntion-in-syria/

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