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06-03-2012 01:33 AM  6 years agoPost 1
fencelake

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I can't seem to figure out the difference in the Heli-star and the Superior? Are they the same and can parts be interchanged if one was to buy parts for one and use them on the other? or is it like a 600 and 700 type of difference?

Is there a benefit in having one over the other?

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06-03-2012 03:53 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Blue Angel

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fencelake: The Heli-Star was an upgraded Heli-Boy. It had a Superior MR head with a few other subtle changes. That was the main difference. Hope this helps.

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06-04-2012 06:40 AM  6 years agoPost 3
Dunedinflyer

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Theres a lot of difference the only thing similar is the head
Different gear ratio longer tail boom different collective collective pitch different main frames advantage of helistar none except most Heliboy parts fit and they were a lot more heliboy and helistars sold at the superior had a short lifespan between Heliboy & the Champion Dunedinflyer

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06-05-2012 04:38 AM  6 years agoPost 4
fencelake

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Cool thanks for the input! It's good to know that the heli-boy parts could work with the heli-star. I'm finding some other things that work for parts as well... which is helpful.

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06-12-2012 02:05 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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Superior it is!
So I went with the Schluter Superior... it's in mint condition, I went through it with a fine tooth comb and cleaned it up. I took out the gas engine, and it's ready for electric conversion. If anyone out there has any good ideas on how to connect the fan hub to a scorpion motor... please feel free to let me know. The fan hub was just bolted to the engine via the threaded shaft of the engine. I'm thinking of cutting a hole in the hub so that I can use a collar of some type. The idea is to keep it as original as possible with the exception of motor and electronics. I'm going to leave the gas tank in if I can... I may have to use that space for batteries... but we'll see. Here are a few pics of her right now.

Also, the pinion is connected via friction I guess to the fan hub (photo C) I guess I use tape or glue to get those to lock again?

Any and all engineering ideas welcome. I really don't want to have to just install the motor up high after removing the shaft... I like all that stuff so I'm going to try and keep it if I can.

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06-12-2012 09:49 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Dunedinflyer

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you would be much better off with a Mod 1 pinion in mesh with the main gear in days of old it was a lot of work to get the fan and clutch shaft to run true a hit and miss with a dial indicator you,ll probably never notice it with electric until parts starting failing with the glow motor it was difficuld to get a smooth engine run because of fuel foaming Dunedinflyer

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04-29-2013 07:54 PM  5 years agoPost 7
mundo330

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Fan, Clutch Starter-shaft setup on schluter.
I used to do many of these for builders. If you first work on the fan/ engine joining and get them dialed in to less than 2 thousandths. Then press the shaft out of the clutch then press it back in from the top first, pressing the shaft completely through the clutch. This will extrude the shaft straight and with minor tweeking you can achieve less than .001 run out! This will net a smooth running motor, fan, start shaft assembly.

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04-30-2013 02:06 AM  5 years agoPost 8
slickporsche

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Mundo 330
Very useful information! However, he wants to ruin the heli with electric power. What a waste of a good heli.

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04-30-2013 03:26 AM  5 years agoPost 9
fencelake

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Hey Mundo 330... thanks for the info! I really appreciate it. I'm still working on placement of everything and what components to use, but it ought to be a pretty unique heli when I'm done!

This is why I also fly sailplanes.

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05-06-2013 05:19 PM  5 years agoPost 10
mundo330

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Clutch shaft pressing
If you are going to use the clutch (as I have seen done) you can do the same procedure. Just be aware that you will need a hydraulic press with a custom jig to do this right. As I had a 30 ton unit(a little overkill but...) for my performance motorcycle and jet-ski shop all I had to do was make the jigs. I wish I still had them as I would have sent them to you.
Good luck
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