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06-02-2012 07:18 PM  6 years agoPost 1
Ronald Thomas

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I have been seeing a lot of posts lately on the difficulty on soldering EC-5 plugs. They are pretty easy to do if you take your time and follow some simple rules.
I made a short video on how I solder these plugs so that people can see what to do so that the job is easy. Hope this helps.........Ron

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06-02-2012 07:29 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Mike Fortin

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Best way to solder EC5 is to not solder at all.

Get a small torch, heat the thick wire then use the torch to melt the solder into the connector... Insert wire... DONE!

Takes about 30 seconds per connector.

It's like pressing the EASY Button!

DONE!

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06-02-2012 07:43 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Ronald Thomas

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Sounds like a good idea! How do you make sure the solder wicks into the wire completely???

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06-02-2012 10:38 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Easy to tell when it melts right in.

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06-02-2012 10:42 PM  6 years agoPost 5
mr dan

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I use the torch method as well. Works better for me, I also dip the wire end in liquid flux , I've never had a bad solder joint.

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06-02-2012 11:50 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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If the solder wicks up the wire, the wire will become brittle.

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06-02-2012 11:56 PM  6 years agoPost 7
Al Austria

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For low gauge wires and large connectors, use a large tip with sufficient mass. This is especially important if you are not using a soldering iron with regulated power(like a solder station/base) as it likely will not compensate for swings in tip temperature whilst soldering. With a quality soldering station and the correct tip, you shouldn't ever need to go over 650F to solder most electronic components. Use water soluble flux, clean with anhydrous IPA.

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06-03-2012 12:44 AM  6 years agoPost 8
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I use extra flux on the wire to wick solder in. It takes a good amount of solder to wick the tip of the 10-12g wire. Also partial pre-fill the cup of the E5 bullit. Reheat both and dunk tip into cup. Fairly easy.

Never had a cold joint yet.

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06-03-2012 01:25 AM  6 years agoPost 9
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Best way to solder EC5 is to not solder at all.

Get a small torch, heat the thick wire then use the torch to melt the solder into the connector... Insert wire... DONE!
i'm very sorry but i can't agree with using a small torch on multi-strand copper wire, with a small torch you can not heat all the strands evenly and all at the same time not to mention the heat treatment you will almost certainly do to some of the strands as you try to get them all hot enough and at the same time but not too hot (remember a micro torch is 1500 degrees or more) and you will have to bounce back and forth between the wire AND keep the cup hot, i can almost certainly guarantee that not all of that will be at the right temp and all at the same time when it go's together, a soldering gun will "heat soak" all of the connection without over heating it and guarantee that ALL of the solder will be flowing (molten) at the same time, i'm sorry but i think a torch is a bad idea.....

oh and not all solder is created equal, try to find some high quality avation avonics solder and you won't need to use flux as it's part of the solder and in just the right amount,the really good stuff flows like water you won't find the good stuff just anywhere because it has a small amount of lead among other bad stuff in it, you'll most likely have to order it from somewhere and you should look for "for professional use only" or something like that, as always take appropriate precautions when using the "good stuff" like the right type of gloves and so on.....

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06-03-2012 02:54 AM  6 years agoPost 10
superyan711

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Hi GetToDaChopper!

I like to use torch. This work well for me but can you tell us where i can buy this tool and what is the price of this tool please!

Thank's !

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06-03-2012 04:22 AM  6 years agoPost 11
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I concur with laughing's method, that's how I do my EC5's and I've found it to be the most reliable method of getting a good joint. You can do it with a torch, but a good hot iron with a 700F or 800F tip will be more reliable. Mainly you can keep a good controlled temp on the joint so it all melts together just right.

Also, it's not a bad idea to sink heat from the wires by gripping them with a pair of needlenose (or ball link pliers) while you're applying the heat. The entire wire can get pretty hot and this helps keep that heat from going all the way into the battery (or ESC).

I only use my Kester 66/44 electronics solder for these joints also....

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06-03-2012 04:22 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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can you tell us where i can buy this tool and what is the price of this tool please!
by tool do you mean "avation avonics solder" if so i'll find out where the local avonics shop gets theres from on monday when i go to work, sorry i can't find out sooner.....
Also, it's not a bad idea to sink heat from the wires by gripping with with a pair of needlenose (or ball link pliers). The entire wire can get pretty hot and this helps keep that heat from going all the way into the battery (or ESC).
i agree and ment to talk about this as well but forgot, opps, this can keep the solder from flowing too far up the wire and turning it into a bar that is no longer flexable and a place to fail !

when adding shrink rap you should make sure it extends past the point in the wire at which the solder had "wicked" to so it supports the wire untill it is flexable once more......
a quality soldering station and the correct tip, you shouldn't ever need to go over 650F to solder most electronic components
i also agree with this as well, a quality soldering job requires a quality soldering station and the correct tip ! it MUST be powerful enough with enough mass to keep the job at hand from wicking all the heat away from the tip, the quicker the iron can get the hole area hot enough for the solder to flow to where you want the solder to flow the quicker you can remove the heat from the job and thus not allowing the solder to flow where you don't want it !

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06-03-2012 04:32 AM  6 years agoPost 13
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i agree and ment to talk about this as well but forgot, opps, this can keep the solder from flowing too far up the wire and turning it into a bar that is no longer flexable and a place to fail !
Yepper, that's a good point. a really high wattage soldering iron can help with that too, you can "get in and get out" really fast with it. Mine is a 45 watt Weller soldering station, it gets the job done very well believe it or not, but I do make a lot more lead bars than I would with a really powerful iron that would work a lot faster...

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06-03-2012 04:45 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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LOL unclejane i wasn't done yet with my post yet LOL

sometime when i'm soldering i feel like "captain kirk" "SCOTTY I NEED MORE POWER" LOL

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06-03-2012 05:02 AM  6 years agoPost 15
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I agree with Mike, Torch all the way.

I do however Pre Tin the Wires with a Soldering Iron and Rosin Core Flux, and clean with Denatured alcohol.

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06-03-2012 05:32 AM  6 years agoPost 16
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I agree with Mike, Torch all the way.
i'm sorry but that's bad advice for so many reasons......

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06-03-2012 05:35 AM  6 years agoPost 17
Mike Fortin

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From years of experience doing it this way, I've never had one fail.

Thanks, but it's fine advice and it's what works for me and obviously many, many others.

Use whatever method allows you to sleep well at night.

Thanks.

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06-03-2012 05:53 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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+1 on what Mike said..

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06-03-2012 05:55 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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the butane "soldering iron" is used for plumbing applications mainly, sealing up pipes with non toxic deleaded solder.
IT's basically a mini torch, not something for electronics.

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06-03-2012 06:05 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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I/we are not soldering "electronics", I/we are "soldering" large wire leads into large bullet connectors.

There is nothing delicate here and it's obvious that this is a well proven method that has worked for many for quite sometime indeed.

This is a torch, not a soldering iron in any form.

I use this one:

http://www.harborfreight.com/micro-torch-42099.html

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