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06-01-2012 06:31 PM  6 years agoPost 1
JKos

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Hello,
I had a thought on taxes and I guarantee this is too simple for someone to have not done research and analysis on it; but I haven't hit on good search terms to find any good info.

Thought: Why should anyone get a return greater than what they paid in taxes? Why is that allowed to happen? What affect would it have on the budget if such a simple rule was put in place?

Yes, I know it's allowed to happen to redistribute the "wealth." But when someone pays ZERO taxes yet gets a huge return, something is just not right. As an example, there are illegal immigrants who pay no taxes yet, amazingly, have a legal right to file a tax return and actually get money.

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06-01-2012 06:48 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Blades345

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If you don't pay taxes, then you should not be receiving any money whatsoever. It disgusts me that people can actually receive money when they haven't paid in. America is going down the toilet quicker than Obama's healthcare.

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06-01-2012 06:51 PM  6 years agoPost 3
JKos

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> If you don't pay taxes, then you should
> not be receiving any money whatsoever

What about the aspect of getting more back then you paid in?

- John

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06-01-2012 08:25 PM  6 years agoPost 4
dilberteinstein

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JKos
As an example, there are illegal immigrants who pay no taxes yet, amazingly, have a legal right to file a tax return and actually get money.
Here's what's happening right now.

Legals are filing income taxes right now. They are claiming "20" or so children somewhere back in Mexico (wink, wink) and hauling in more money in illegal tax money than they make illegally.

There are aid groups set up to help them do this. This is known to cost the taxpayers billions and billions of dollars each year and it's growing.

The GOP tried to introduce legislation in the Senate to stop this, but Harry Ried blocked it...plain and simple. We are being robbed by our own government.

In addition, identity thieves are filing early income tax with fake income, fake decutions, fake everything and hauling in big bucks and the IRS does nothing to stop it. There are too many links for this so, here's google (only look in you have a strong heart):

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=...iw=1318&bih=932

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06-01-2012 08:36 PM  6 years agoPost 5
Dennis (RIP)

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If you don't pay any taxes, you should not get any government services either.

Sigh...........

That will never happen.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-01-2012 08:49 PM  6 years agoPost 6
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Here is another idea that needs to be implemented. As long as you are on the government welfare dole your right to vote in a national election should be suspended.

By the way JK, love that thought on tax refunds.

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06-01-2012 09:19 PM  6 years agoPost 7
Blades345

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> If you don't pay taxes, then you should
> not be receiving any money whatsoever

What about the aspect of getting more back then you paid in?
I agree with that as well!!!

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06-01-2012 09:28 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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On the other hand, if it wasn't for low wage subsidies, many low wage Employers would be out of business. Not to mention many services you enjoy would be more expensive.

Many couples both have to work full time in this day and age. If they get a refund more than they payed in, blame it on the system, not the individuals collecting a refund so they can buy a NEW CHEAP USED CAR to get to work. The car may be your old beater.

Most of these subsidies are brought to you by the Republicans for their own benefit.

Of course, All Ya Big Paycheck Earners and SS Collectors think the person serving you coffie in the morning are scumbags and should not have the right to vote.

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06-01-2012 09:42 PM  6 years agoPost 9
baby uh1

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Just show an ID and feel free to vote ONCE per election.

The federal government should be limited to 5% of GDP. If they want to spend more they should have to work to increase the GDP.

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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06-01-2012 09:57 PM  6 years agoPost 10
Dennis (RIP)

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On the other hand, if it wasn't for low wage subsidies, many low wage Employers would be out of business. Not to mention many services you enjoy would be more expensive.
Your assumption is a bit off the mark.

Without low wage subsidies, the result would be just a bit less government in our lives.

Government is not the solution.
Most of these subsidies are brought to you by the Republicans for their own benefit.
Bullsh#t.
Of course All Ya Big Paycheck Earners and SS Collectors think the person serving you coffie in the morning are scumbags and should not have the right to vote.
More Bullsh#t.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-01-2012 10:09 PM  6 years agoPost 11
sjgusmc21

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How about these simple rules...

1. You don't pay taxes, you don't receive anything back.
2. You don't pay taxes, then you don't receive Gov't Handouts.
3. If you are a illegal alien, then you HAVE NO RIGHTS. Get out and come back legally (don't want to hear it as my wife and I paid A HELL OF A LOT OF MONEY FOR HER TO COME HERE LEGALLY). Tough. Why should you soak off of the Citizens and legal residents of this country when you are not paying taxes and are ILLEGAL?
4. If you are born here and your mother is illegally in the country, you ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY a US Citizen (JUST SAY NO TO ANCHOR BABIES). Just think how much THAT ALONE WOULD SAVE THE TAX PAYERS!

Sounds rough? Nope. None of it is. Just do the right thing. Be a responsible American and Legal Resident. That's all. Oh, and one more thing.....

PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES SO OTHERS DON'T GET THE SHAFT FROM UNCLE SAM BECAUSE YOU ARE A SCUMBAG.

Semper Fi!

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06-02-2012 12:12 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES SO OTHERS DON'T GET THE SHAFT FROM UNCLE SAM BECAUSE YOU ARE A SCUMBAG
What is a fair share? This scumbag (me) believes there should be no income tax like Paul and others...
"Truth is Treason in the Empire of Lies"

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06-02-2012 02:02 AM  6 years agoPost 13
pctomlin

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How many of you know where the federal income tax came from? Was it alway just there?

Ask that great progressive democrat Woodrow Wilson where the federal income tax came from.
Here is how the progressive's federal income tax started, sounds like Obama and his "the rich must pay their fare share" crap today.
1913 to 1915 top rate 7%
1916 top rate 15%
1917 top rate 67%
1918 top rate 77%

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06-02-2012 02:31 AM  6 years agoPost 14
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I really don't mean this to be rude, but I'm shocked that you just figured out this is what they mean by "Redistribution of Wealth".

The outrage must be at a 10 right now for you; I'm just numb inside.

Just scroll to .58 seconds.

Watch at YouTube

Funny, that looks like some serious weight around his neck. Our country is screwed.

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06-02-2012 02:19 PM  6 years agoPost 15
fla heli boy

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best one EVER.....

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06-02-2012 05:52 PM  6 years agoPost 16
Dennis (RIP)

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Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-02-2012 08:15 PM  6 years agoPost 17
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The guy on noobs vid is just hilarious and the lady with a dozen kids is just sad. The judge in her case was not very smart because now the state has to raise all the kids independently.

Back on topic of the origanal post of fair taxes...To be FARE, I never see any rightwingdings talk about Tax/Welfare for the Rich.

The Wealthy Receive Billions of Dollars in Government Subsidies Each Year

The Rich Repugs and Democraps seam to be the most to benifit from welfare. While the Democratic welfare state, based on direct spending, redistributes wealth from the middle class and the wealthy to the poor, the Republican welfare state, redistributes wealth upwards. The middle class gets some from the Republican welfare state, but not as much as the rich. (((The middle class is getting squeezed at both ends))).
For example- the new health care (Obama/Hillary)laws was wrote way before Obumo took office. And who benifits most? Drug Dealers and Insurance Companys.

Alexander Tytler wrote that democracies only survive until “voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.”

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06-02-2012 08:52 PM  6 years agoPost 18
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Ron Paul has the best policies for the Middle Class

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06-02-2012 09:18 PM  6 years agoPost 19
Dennis (RIP)

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While the Democratic welfare state, based on direct spending, redistributes wealth from the middle class and the wealthy to the poor, the Republican welfare state, redistributes wealth upwards.
This is a very typical progressive left line of bullsh#t.

That is, the rich republicans are getting rich at the expense of the poor. I have heard that here many times.

But, how can that be when the poor have no money?

The rich can only get rich from a source of funds. The poor have no funds except for basic living. They cannot purchase new cars every 2 or 3 years. They cannot purchase a camper to take the family out on weekends. They cannot purchase that new furniture for that new modest home they just purchased. They cannot send their kids to summer camp. They cannot put their kids in private school. They cannot afford those expensive shoes for their kids. They cannot purchase that RV 4wd vehicle to take out in the woods. They cannot go on hunting or fishing trips. They cannot do those 2 or 3 week vacations aboard an ocean liner. They cannot afford expensive auto repairs to have dependable transportation. They cannot afford to start that new small business because they have no expendable cash flow and have no home to mortgage for a small business loan. Etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

But, there are plenty of poor. Always has been. From the looks of it, there always will be.

Who benefits from that poor sector of our society? Only the progressive left does by giving themselves the power to distribute funds taken from taxes collected from those that earn. In fact, the more poor their are, the more the power of their vote to vote in people who will give them more federal taxation. In fact, in the USA, the poor are the richest poor in the entire world.

Who pays the most in taxes? The top earners pay almost 76% of all federal taxes collected. The top 10% of earners pay over 40% of all federal taxes collected.

So, its the rich that are supporting the poor through federal taxation collected and given to the poor for basic living expenses.
Alexander Tytler wrote that democracies only survive until �voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
Thats precisely what fuels the above.

Are we going to allow that to continue?

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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06-02-2012 09:38 PM  6 years agoPost 20
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I can count on one finger the times I've been employed by a poor person...... And that would be a lie.

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