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06-01-2012 05:02 AM  6 years agoPost 1
GetToDaChopper

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well sence rilopez825 has just put me on "ignored" for what god only knows reason i'll finish my thought to USNAviationjay here, well anyways like i said it's still not set in stone as it still seams to be open to change from that i have read else where and it still has a little ways to go before release, i guess we'll all know for sure when it actually it released.....

and could someone ask rilopez825 why he would put me on "ignored" in the middle of a discussion with other members, very poor form to use the "ignored" feature in that way if you ask me ! very rude !!!

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06-01-2012 05:29 AM  6 years agoPost 2
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Afraid to crash

For me, part of this hobby was about conquering my fear. I have made it to the 3D stage and still get that "rush" feeling when I've had a particularly aggressive flight. Heck, it even still happens when I practice a manuever I have let myself get rusty on.

That little adrenaline rush that makes my hands shake, it's what has always kept me in the hobby. A friend of mine and I have discussed and agreed that some people that have an adrenaline release, also have a feeling of elation shortly thereafter. These people are drawn to activities that scare them...(me)

Other people will have feelings of anxiety after adrenaline. Those are usually the people who stay away from things that scare them.

Which person are you?

I guess different people get or want different things from the hobby. I want the adreanaline. I want the extreme challenge accompanied with the chance that I may crash. Any type of Auto-correct would ruin it for me.

As for tail gyros, you can fly without them. It's not easy, but you can do it.
well thats well and fine for you But the thing is i know for alot of people it's not that they are "Afraid to crash"
it's that they can't afford to crash and that's what it is for me as well, if throwing money away on parts replacement bills is a way for you to get that adreanaline rush then who am i to say thats a bad thing buti farly sure that your one in just a hand full that might feel that way, i guess what your doing is a lot like a gambling addiction and when you crash it's like rolling snake eyes, i myself have never felt a "adreanaline rush" from knowing i could crash but what i have felt was sadness after a crash not knowing when i'll have the money to buy the parts i'll need to get my heli flying again and even more sadness at all the time losted flying my heli because it needs parts, but i do feel very happy when my HC3-SX saves my heli from a crash and that happyness stays with me a long, long time !!!

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06-01-2012 05:49 AM  6 years agoPost 3
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I would love to have something like this. I went out last night with my 450 3D and lost orientation and crashed into some tall grass, not too bad. I fixed it and went out gain today, crashed about a minute into the flight and now I'm ordering parts. Now if I had something that would auto level for me it would have saved me two crashes. For me its not the money that bothers me it is the time I could be spending learning how to fly instead of waiting for parts.

I see this more as a training aid and not an auto pilot. I would buy one any day just to get past the learning stage.
THIS is how most people feel about crashing !!!

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06-01-2012 05:54 AM  6 years agoPost 4
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Its all about time in the air. You can't learn to fly on the ground.

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06-01-2012 05:58 AM  6 years agoPost 5
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i'll 2nd that !

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06-01-2012 06:07 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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Old timers, you need to learn on a flybar first. Your going to crash. Learn from it.

If an Iphone can control a heli, we are into a new realm.

Keep up or get left behind!

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06-01-2012 10:08 AM  6 years agoPost 7
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i'm not sure if i understand what your saying ???

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06-01-2012 10:16 AM  6 years agoPost 8
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Technology! First was FB vs.FBL Next it will be Self Save helis vs. skill.

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06-01-2012 10:44 AM  6 years agoPost 9
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ya it's always something with some people !

Technology to me is a good thing and what makes it a great thing is if you don't like it you can just turn it off, it's just that simple !!!

No one can force you to use OR buy it and it is scaleable meaning you can use a little of it OR alot of it, it's completely your choice !

The greatest thing about this hobby is that it gives different things to different people and for different reasons and we all don't have to agree on what that is to get the most out of it, AND all that is requied for you to have a great time is to do what you like and not what someone else would have you like !!!

heck if you want to kick back under an umbrella and drink a cold beer while your heli does a 3D routine for you, after it lands you then change battery and then you try to do the same 3D routine and all the while without the possibility of crashing then i say YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO IF YOU WANT TO !!!

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06-01-2012 10:51 AM  6 years agoPost 10
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And they allow us to do it with a switch!

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06-01-2012 11:03 AM  6 years agoPost 11
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That's very true because you don't have to use it all the time or not at all, you can use it whenever you like at a flick or a switch or a push of a button !!!

Now how great is that i ask you !?!

Some of you people really need to relax about the new Technology, please don't worry people as this new Technology is no where's near taking over anytime soon or even in your lifetime or in your children's lifetime for that matter !!!

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06-01-2012 11:10 AM  6 years agoPost 12
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The Matrix is coming soon! LMAO

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06-01-2012 03:23 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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Yeah I'm with Chopper on this one. I used to be an anti automatic transmission and power steering type guy - I guess I thought such things just weren't manly or diminished my driving experience somehow.

It wasn't until I started flying full scale that I changed my mind about technology that reduces pilot workload and makes things easier in the cockpit. In that case your life can depend on it, so I've come around on that issue.

Same thing at the transmitter, IMO. In fact, IMO, it's even more vital in r/c because controlling the aircraft is so much harder than in a full scale. That's why I've come around on the idea of aids like tail gyros and now even 3-axis gyros (in principle anyway).

So I'm all in favor of technologies like Captain Rescue (I think it's called?) in the Skookum and other aids that make flying our helis easier. Especially when training - we use CFI's in the right seat to keep us from killing ourselves in the big ones we sit in, so why not have a similar aid in our helis to save us from large financial losses or worse in the event of a mistake?

Don't get me wrong, I love flying NOBAR, for instance, but it has its place like everything else. Power steering can be a good thing

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06-01-2012 03:40 PM  6 years agoPost 14
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power steering yes.. but automatic transmissions?!?! blasphemer..

AT's are for grocery getters!

and Choppa the 50 foot thing is pretty much in stone right now according to Howard at FMA. those were his words responding to that question posed by his test pilot.

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06-01-2012 08:36 PM  6 years agoPost 15
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self-leveling with the skookum is called "Captain offline" lol, "Captain Rescue" is the HC3-SX !

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06-06-2012 04:06 AM  6 years agoPost 16
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auto pilot
I wish i had the auto pilot on my raptor 50/ i think i too am afraid of crashing but i have done it several times. i have not flown in a yr or more and wish i had the time to do so. i want to buy an auto pilot to put on my heli. i think it will help since i cant get time with other pilots. rick h in vegas as well as randy w in vegas and others help and r good to take the time with me. i only wish i was in vegas to have time to fly with my friends. i will get back to the hobby once i relocate from Hawaii. i would love to buddy box if that is still an option. i wish i had more time to fly. i would love to learn more about perhaps a new heli but dont know which is better. i do love my old raptor 50 vs. cost is less i guess but i just like it.

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06-06-2012 04:40 AM  6 years agoPost 17
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Also, let's not forget the safety aspect. I get a little tingle in my leg and jumpy when someone is new at the sticks of a 500 or bigger heli. An Autoleveling bailout system will make me feel better as an innocent bystander.

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06-06-2012 05:30 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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i know that the HC3-SX has took all the worry out of flying for me, when horizon mode (self-leveling) is on just about anyone could fly my heli (a mini protos) it's really easier to fly than a coaxial helicopter (super easy to fly).

if you don't really have the time to put into learning to fly in a normal mode but you still would like to fly a r/c heli thats not a toy from toys-are-us the HC3-SX is the next best thing to an auto-pilot but there not cheap though, they run about $550.00 dollars, it took me awhile to save up for it but it was worth it as i couldn't be happier with it !

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06-06-2012 05:30 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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I love my HC3-SX unit .... wish it was around when I was learning 3D ..... would have saved me lots of $$$$$$
I've used the rescue feature a couple of times, generally showing others during a demo! But i am amazed every time I activate the rescue mode how it works, Great fun!

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06-06-2012 05:36 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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yep and i'll say this to, since i gotten mine i haven't crashed once ! so either i've gotten much better at flying, or it's the HC3-SX ! you can guess which it is....

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