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05-28-2012 08:00 PM  6 years agoPost 21
arclite5

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@ dave

Totally agree. 800mm helis, like any size bracket, have a good demand, and there's certainly money to be made.

The longer they're around, the better they'll get. Things will be developed for them, etc. They'll get faster and stronger. Oh lawdy.

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05-28-2012 11:20 PM  6 years agoPost 22
GetToDaChopper

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well the bigger they get the heavier they get and the slower they will get it's just the way "mass" works, more mass needs more power to move it and more power adds more mass and so on and so on and on and on........

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05-29-2012 02:01 AM  6 years agoPost 23
dahld

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Well, what you say is true. But if larger with more mass thus more power required is going to be characterized as a bad thing, then we all need to be flying T-Rex 250's (or maybe something smaller...as larger is..well, a bad thing???)

To each their own of course.

(-: Dave

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05-29-2012 04:20 AM  6 years agoPost 24
GetToDaChopper

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i guess you don't get it, the bigger the slower untill you get to full size, strength doesn't scale with size nore does power.

i never said anything about good or bad, the "bad thing" talk is all on you kid......

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05-29-2012 04:57 AM  6 years agoPost 25
Noobyflyer

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But if larger with more mass thus more power required is going to be characterized as a bad thing, then we all need to be flying T-Rex 250's (or maybe something smaller
Ummmm, no- poor correlation. I realize that you have a "Vested" interest in this, but my point is that the size of an 800 doesn't have the staying power of the 600 or 700 class, no matter how many are sold. If other companies jump on the 800 boat, out of the obscure upgrade kit for a 700, it won't work out in the long run.

I've seen a couple XXtreme's fly and gave an obligatory thumbs up on size only.....otherwise, it's a tugboat in the air (Compared to 600's or 700's). Shoot, 700's have been popular for a while and you still have yet to see one pack=one flight catch on or a selection of 12S HV ESC's.

That's my opinion. The 700 heli is the tipping point for 3D....cost, efficiency, and speed.

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05-29-2012 05:35 AM  6 years agoPost 26
Big Fil

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That's my opinion. The 700 heli is the tipping point for 3D....cost, efficiency, and speed.
I remember people saying that just about 5 years ago but with 500. Anything over that size was deemed too slow and too expensive to run.

I think we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg for the 800 class. It's not as if power systems and batteries are going to stall where they are at now limiting things to the 700 size.

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05-29-2012 05:40 AM  6 years agoPost 27
GetToDaChopper

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that's funny, i don't recall anyone saying "the 500 heli is the tipping point for 3D....cost, efficiency, and speed" ???

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05-29-2012 02:50 PM  6 years agoPost 28
unclejane

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You guys are funny - how that thing isn't impressive in the OP is beyond me. If the metric is how nuttily the thing flops around, well, Kyle Dahl outflies himself on anything by zounds with a trex 450:

Watch at YouTube

Personally I go as large as I can possibly afford for stability and visibility reasons. On planks I grew it until it was big enough for me to sit in. I'd do that with helis too if I could afford it, but in the meanwhile I'm sitting on a 700.

And to be honest, if the XXTreme didn't hold the world record as the most constantly out-of-stock heli that's actually still in production, I'd probably try to save up for one. I'm old and can't see very well, so to me floppier and more nervous doesn't equal better. I value as big and smooth in the air and able to handle extremely high winds as possible personally.

But still, the OP video is just impressive no matter what, at least to me....

LS

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05-29-2012 03:05 PM  6 years agoPost 29
heliaddict2424

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But still, the OP video is just impressive no matter what, at least to me...
+1

Must see in person must hear 800mm blades farting at 2050rpm 10 feet in front of you than tell me its not impressive. And flying it with this setup is amazing to' not that the stock setup is not fun but this is just cool. And I also believe that this motor is being limited by lipos at this point. I think we need to move past 65c to get all this motor has to offer..

Team MikadoUSA Team Scorpion

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05-29-2012 03:11 PM  6 years agoPost 30
GetToDaChopper

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i'm kind of curious how big they can get and still do 3D without flying apart ???

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08-04-2012 02:07 PM  5 years agoPost 31
garfieldhummer

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ultimate setup?
Let's use our imagination

The Ultimate setup can be like this ?

8S 5000 * 2

HK5035 Evo (12/10), 1.6mm YY, KV350 (this is the motor run on Banshee)

YGE 320 ( 16S edition )

A lighter 800mm blade (I found Timo's xxtreme has more agality, don;t know if that due to the lighter spinblade)

2000rpm

I think the 800 heli should not be just like now, it is limited by electronics. Just think about the days that all the 90's run on regular 4035 size motor, and now see how the bird perform with crazy motor like KDE700 Xera4530 HK4525

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08-04-2012 02:17 PM  5 years agoPost 32
Noobyflyer

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Well the 800 has been out for a while. The hype is over and I still don't see other companies moving to that size. Mikado is q'ing up their 700 as the next big (pardon the pun) thing.

The Xxtreme was a novelty. My original thought was correct and the supporters (read sponsored pilots and their supporters) have left it in their wake.

Xxtreme sure took a hit on resale value in the classifieds--money doesn't lie, but people with vested interests sure do.

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