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06-07-2012 11:36 AM  6 years agoPost 41
sjgusmc21

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OK, so not next question. What Power Distribution Board are you using? I have this one, but I can't seem to get anything to solder to it. Just a small spot of silver solder and that is it. Hate to ditch it as it seems to be a really nice board but...if I can't figure out how to solder a wire to it, then it is useless. I know, soldering 101 probably.

http://www.multiwiicopter.com/produ...sc-wiring-board

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06-07-2012 01:37 PM  6 years agoPost 42
HansAuf

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That's actually a good board. Don't use silver solder though. Use rosin core solder, an adjustable soldering iron, and some flux. You'll be soldering like a pro without realizing it just by using the right tools.

I recommend:
Solder: 60/40 .032 diameter Standard Rosin-Core Solder. You can get it from Radio Shack. Part # 64-009
Flux: Nokorode Regular Paste Flux
Soldering Iron: Variable Temperature 50W - I have recommended this solder station to tons of people and have not heard anything but praise. It runs $40 bucks and performs like a $150 station that is in my closet.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10707

If you want a different board, I prefer these. Just a preference, and the deans plugs make servicing/replacing ESC's or changing stuff in general more convenient. All in all though, a dist board is a dist board is a dist board. These are just easy for folks to set up in my opinion.
https://store.diydrones.com/Hexacop...p/ac-pdb-02.htm
https://store.diydrones.com/Quadcop...p/ac-pdb-01.htm

I make my own, not using a board because of tight spaces. So I make my power distribution "squid" style. Imagine a charging squid and you'll get the picture.

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06-07-2012 02:44 PM  6 years agoPost 43
sjgusmc21

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Thanks Hans. I use a very nice variable temp. soldering station....but I will most certainly keep the one you have in mind as it looks very nice and the price is right, that's for sure.

Ok, never had to go the full '101' soldering in this hobby yet, but guess there is always a first time. Will stop by RS today on the way home and see what I can pick up.

I thought about making harness, but just wanted to get it done. I was amazed at how quickly I was able to get all of my motors and ESC's soldered up last night. Helps if everything is pre-tinned to start with.

You Sir are wealth of knowledge...thank you. Hopefully someday I can return the favor.

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06-07-2012 06:10 PM  6 years agoPost 44
HansAuf

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Glad to help. The more people in this section of the hobby, the more technology moves forward. And more people to fly with!

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06-08-2012 11:26 AM  6 years agoPost 45
sjgusmc21

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recommend:
Solder: 60/40 .032 diameter Standard Rosin-Core Solder. You can get it from Radio Shack. Part # 64-009
Flux: Nokorode Regular Paste Flux
Soldering Iron: Variable Temperature 50W - I have recommended this solder station to tons of people and have not heard anything but praise. It runs $40 bucks and performs like a $150 station that is in my closet.
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10707

OK, so got it done last night. Wow, this thing is coming together and I must say thus far MUCH easier then setting up my 600 and 800 sized heli's....so far..... Of course, when you have a wealth of knowledge at your disposal, it is much easier....

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06-10-2012 04:58 AM  6 years agoPost 46
GyroFreak

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Here is my 2nd quad for taking still pictures.

Hoverthings HT-FPV frame
10 inch props
DJI NAZA controller
Turnigy D2830/11 1100KV motors
Turnigy ESC AE-25A
Pentax 10 megpixal Optio W60 waterproof. (Nice feature built in intervolometer since I don't have someone to help frame the pics. Just take at automatic 10 sec intervals and throw out 90% of them)
FPV camera , brand unknown, used on several helicopters over the years
Video Transmiter 900 Mhz, brand unknown
Spectrum AR-7010 with one remote recv.
3S Skylipo 2650mah
Eagle Tree data recorder V4 (Pulls 14 amps at hover)
Eagle Tree altimiter V4
Note the fully engineered and complex camera mount. OK, laugh, it works great for stills at altitude, variable pitch angle via top velcro strap.
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Typical picture,that's me way down there.
The camera Pentax 10Mp is setup to take a picture every 10 secounds. so I just fly around changing the yaw (rudder) periodicly, then land. Edit pictures on the computer and crop and keep the ones that I like.
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I don't approve of political jokes. I've seen too many of them get elected.

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06-10-2012 11:39 PM  6 years agoPost 47
sjgusmc21

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Hey GyroFreak, thanks for the info! Great pictures, btw. Yeah, I use CDHK on my canons (magic lantern) and set them for 1 pic every 5 seconds. Works great. I am a ways from getting my UAP1 up in the, especially since I downed may 600 AP today! That hurt....only around $200, but in time wise.... Oh well. Hope you had a great weekend.

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06-13-2012 02:45 PM  6 years agoPost 48
sjgusmc21

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OK, once again need the help of the 'Multi-Rotor' Gurus, please. Before anyone jumps on me, YES I have done numerous searches and have tried everything I have read. I have tried to connect my Naza to my Netbook running XP and my Windows 7 64bit pc.

My setup:
Aurora 9 and receiver
Naza
Hoverfly Power Distribution Board
6x Turnigy Plush Esc's
6x Avorado Motors
Rusty's UAP1 configured as hex
4s 4000 zippy 30c Battery

Netbook XP: Locks up netbook, until I unplug usb. Haven't progressed any further.

Windows 7 64bit: followed the instructions, and will not work.
Open up Naza assistant, plug usb to pc, plug battery into controller,
Naza and 'black box' powers up (green light), one loud beep, windows makes the 'connection noise', and that is it. Doesn't ask for anything.
Open up device manager, I do not see DJI, but I do see unknown usb item....try to direct new driver to saved folder containing unzipped 64 bit drivers...does no good.
So, thought it was the one ESC I left the red bec wire in (to power receiver).....undid that, still nothing.

I am at a loss of words on this one. WAY more difficult then it should be. 3 hours last night, 2 this morning. I am in IT so no stranger to this stuff. I don't know why it would lock up my Netbook, as I use it for my Helicommand and Castle software and it works great (find that XP is generally more friendly to RC related software).

I also tried installing all of this as the 'administrator'. Nothing.

Any suggestions would be great. At this point, I have a very expensive hex multi-rotor door stop. Thank you.

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06-13-2012 07:05 PM  6 years agoPost 49
HansAuf

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Try plugging it all up like you have. Go into the device manger and delete the device. Then unplug everything. Run the driver install again. Power up your transmitter, then the NAZA, then plug it into USB port again. Wait. See if that helps.

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06-13-2012 07:31 PM  6 years agoPost 50
GyroFreak

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If your 4 ECSs (or how many you are using) have built in BEC, disconnect the red wire in all (the ones going to your NAZA). For some reason this prevented my NAZ Assistant from connecting my NAZA to PC..
Using an exacto knife lift the tiny plastic retaining flap while gently pulling back the red wire. Make sure you insulate the exposed red wire ESC pin with sleeving.
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The NAZA supplies it's own power so the ESC BEC were probably causing some sort of power supply interference.

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06-14-2012 12:31 AM  6 years agoPost 51
sjgusmc21

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Thanks Gyro Freak, but did that already. Have a few suggestions to try out tonight, but no until the kids are sleeping.

Hans, will give it a try tonight...pretty desperate at this point. Normally I can see light at the end of the tunnel...but this one...well no. Kind of feels like when I went FBL and Helicommand at the same time...clueless....

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06-14-2012 01:10 AM  6 years agoPost 52
GyroFreak

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One more thing, a shot in the dark, but make sure you have the 4 pin connector plugged into the upper port labeled "LED" on the NAZA unit. It will plug into the one labeled "EXP" but then the USB will no longer work (doesn't hurt anything, just wont work).
I had a terrible time getting the driver to work but once I got it to work this thing is increadable and simple to setup.
Don't give up, I still can't get it to work on my laptop.
Hooverthings.com also has a driver, the same as the others, but wont hurt to try from a different source.

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06-14-2012 01:19 AM  6 years agoPost 53
GyroFreak

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Sorry, I just checked Hooverthings and it now simply redirects you to DJI NZA.
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Hope HansAuf method works for you, installing this driver seems really complex, but once it works, it seems solid.
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Holy Christmas, now I can't find the support info for the driver on DJI, whats happening ????

https://rc.runryder.com/t699803p1/

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06-14-2012 01:55 AM  6 years agoPost 54
sjgusmc21

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OK, so I while I was feeding my little girl (5 wk old), I rebooted and reinstalled driver, reinstalled assistant, and bingo. What the hell? But I did re-seat everything, so maybe something was loose? Didn't think so, but possibly.

Man, if it stays good, I am ok with it. But not real comfortable not knowing what 'exactly' fixed it.

Thank you all for your help. Dealing with error codes now...so will work with that later tonight. Man, the beeps on this thing are loud!

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06-14-2012 02:06 AM  6 years agoPost 55
GyroFreak

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By the way, I have to start my lap top NAZA in a very paticular sequence or it wont work. (windows 7)
With the laptop up and running.
1) Plug in the USB from the NAZA unit
2) Start NAZA assitant
3) Plug in the QUAD power last.
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Don't know why, but this is the only way it works for me.

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06-15-2012 09:54 PM  6 years agoPost 56
GyroFreak

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sjgusmc21
Hey GyroFreak, thanks for the info! Great pictures, btw. Yeah, I use CDHK on my canons (magic lantern) and set them for 1 pic every 5 seconds. Works great.
Yes, I also used CDHK on my canon SX130 IS and it really works great. Trouble with my canon it has the retractable lens and after a mild crash the sand started jamming the lens assy. Got it cleared but thats why I started using my Pentax Optio W60, since it is waterproof there is no lens retract or lens cover to worry about getting sand/dust into the works. Gets dirty, just rinse and dry.
Anyway, keep up the work and post some of your pics.
Paul

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06-19-2012 02:11 PM  6 years agoPost 57
sjgusmc21

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Here are some pic's at this stage. Upper GPS not glued down yet...just installed it last night. Might get the first test flight in on Thursday morning. Hopefully all will go well. Thank you all for your help!

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06-19-2012 04:17 PM  6 years agoPost 58
HansAuf

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Looks great man! I like your color orientation markers. Should be very visible.

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06-19-2012 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 59
sjgusmc21

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Looks great man! I like your color orientation markers. Should be very visible.

Well you should like them, partly based off of yours! Seriously, thanks but truly appreciate all of the detailed help you have given. Lets hope it doesn't cart wheel on me the first time.......

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06-19-2012 10:20 PM  6 years agoPost 60
HansAuf

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Get video in case it does! Just kidding. All the best with it.

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