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04-02-2012 02:50 AM  7 years ago
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Castle 4.01 Firmware
Phoenix, Phoenix HV, and Phoenix Ice Series

Version Number: 4.01
Type: Beta
Release Date: 3/30/12
Release Notes:
œ NOTE: It is HIGHLY recommended that all users discontinue use of firmware V4.00 due to a known bug that can cause unusual ESC behavior. Users may either upgrade to V4.01 or downgrade to a previous version.
œ Functional Improvement: Increased maximum throttle change rate on Multi-Rotor setting. A throttle change of 50% can now be accomplished in .08s.
œ Bug fix: Occasional errors were being recorded in the data log. Fixed
œ Bug fix: Unusual motor shutdowns, and other controller anomolies including ESC failure. Fixed

God I hope so!

I shut down a second new ice2 160hv with the 4.0 firmware today and watched an ice2 80 spew it's gut's all over the field and crash a heli.
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04-02-2012 02:59 AM  7 years ago
unclejane

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Depends on whether the fresh new bugs are as bad as or worse than the old stale bugs... My ice2 120 is working fine as-is, so I'm going to wait and see what the new bugs are like before updating...

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04-02-2012 04:14 AM  7 years ago
philip 01

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i pounded it today to test the 2nd esc with 4.0 and it lasted about 3 minutes.
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04-02-2012 04:41 AM  7 years ago
cdrking

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What happened after 3 minutes?To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.
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04-02-2012 04:43 AM  7 years ago
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it shut down.
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04-02-2012 02:17 PM  7 years ago
bkervaski

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We ran it all weekend on a bunch of helis, did great, but we didn't have problems with 4.0 (except for the startup delay).

philip01 what is your setup? Heli, motor, pinion, main gear, batteries, blade length, headspeed, etc.
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04-02-2012 02:24 PM  7 years ago
jadams

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setup setup setup....
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04-02-2012 02:31 PM  7 years ago
paulpeffly

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wow, castle just seems scary to me... they cant seem to get it right lolTeam HeliDirect
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04-02-2012 02:32 PM  7 years ago
bkervaski

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they cant seem to get it right
@paulpeffly Don't let forum fever fool you, out of the tens of thousands of controllers out there, their is a relatively small percentage of problems with the new ICE2.
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04-02-2012 02:38 PM  7 years ago
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If you have a ESC failure, or motor shutdown like that, I suggest checking this video and do what I do.

Not speaking CC here, but for another manufacturer it turned out that OVER 50% of the failures on ESC was due to a short in the motor.

Watch at YouTube

So it's a cheap insurance to check.

and yes, it can work for 100s of flights WITH a short, it take one bad burst to crack the ESC.
Seen it over and over due to bad errors in the Vbar log, people did not know they where flying with it.
Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
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04-02-2012 03:13 PM  7 years ago
paulpeffly

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Wow, Thanks MrMel!Team HeliDirect
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04-02-2012 03:19 PM  7 years ago
paulpeffly

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bkervaski, yeah I know there are a bunch out there with no issues yet. Me included, I am still rinning my 120hv on my 700 but everytime it is flown I am nervous something is going to happen. And then the gov just makes it worse cause it boggs down sometimes in sudden changes to an extreme. yesterday it sounded like it shut off and my buddy who was flying it just about hit hold because of it. I personally have hit hold in an instance just like that on another heli and crashed due to it because I thought it had shut off. I think all the people talking about it just give a certain discomfort and uncertainty when flying, that in my opinion should not be there. Plus the VBAR gov is soooooo much better so I have to use a dif. esc anyways just have to find the time to put it on lolTeam HeliDirect
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04-02-2012 04:54 PM  7 years ago
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setup setup setup
negative. esc, esc, esc, or motor.

will try the new firmware, and i do concur there could be something coming from the motor. it is made by castle as well.....
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04-02-2012 04:57 PM  7 years ago
bkervaski

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negative. esc, esc, esc.
philip01 what is your setup? Heli, motor, pinion, main gear, batteries, blade length, headspeed, etc.
Team Synergy Factory Specialist / Scorpion / Thunder Power / Byron's Fuels
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04-02-2012 05:14 PM  7 years ago
3dgimble

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Wait isn't this about 4.01 and not 4.0?
Anyone using 4.01 yet?
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04-02-2012 05:39 PM  7 years ago
rbort

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Yes
I'm using 4.01 now got 5 flights on it no worries the previous 4.0 bugs have been fixed (slowdown on first spoolup before going and shutdown/slowdown in flight) except for the rpm in the logs not matching what is programmed in the set rpm page. Used to match with old 3.41 software and 3.27 firmware, doesn't with the new 3.50 and 4.01 but not too worried about that, sure it will be fixed soon.

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04-02-2012 05:50 PM  7 years ago
3dgimble

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So the ? that many want to know; does 4.01 have instantaneous spool up like the Hobby Wing ESC's, will it work with VBar?
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04-02-2012 06:02 PM  7 years ago
rbort

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Huh?
So the ? that many want to know; does 4.01 have instantaneous spool up like the Hobby Wing ESC's
Its soft start for helis, you must know that.

I don't know about vbar governor stuff, don't use that just use the governor in the ESC and it works quite well now and better with 4.01 than it did with 3.27/3.28.

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04-02-2012 06:11 PM  7 years ago
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WARNING 4.01 firmware is a beta folks.

Do NOT install unless you are willing to sacrifice your helicopter.

Let Castle test out their firmware on there OWN helicopters.

Do not support the unethical Castle firmware developement procedure that USES paying customers and destroy's there equipment in the process.

Beta firmware should only be available to the reps.

Let the reps trash their own heli's.
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04-02-2012 06:22 PM  7 years ago
3dgimble

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+1 for that,
but SHHHHHH, let the brave men and boys of Run Ryder exercise their rights as Beta testers.
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