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04-02-2012 03:41 AM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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Unplug the red wire going to the RX from the ICE 100 before you fry something and kill someone from a uncontrolled heli,you don't run 2 BEC's....The ext Align BEC is to power the electronics only and won't power up the esc until you plug in the main pack to the ESC...If you only wanna setup the ESC or do data logging,plug the red wire back in,load up the Castle program on your PC,plug the Castle link into the ESC then plug the main pack into the ESC (don't power up the Align BEC)..Ive had 3 CC ICE 100's and thats the correct way to do it..
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04-02-2012 03:44 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Anyone have a link to a manual?Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-02-2012 03:59 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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I think it is the motor and nothing to do with the ESC.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-02-2012 04:02 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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http://www.castlecreations.com

Did you calibrate the throttle when you changed the radio system?

That might be your only problem.
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04-02-2012 04:05 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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There are videos showing how to do all these things.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-02-2012 04:09 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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Highly unlikely the motor since it doesn't do anything without the proper signal from the esc.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-02-2012 04:20 AM  7 years ago
dkshema

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If you are using a separate regulator to power your electronics, it is required that you do NOT use the internal BEC of the ESC. The red wire from the ESC MUST be isolated from the rest of the system. This is easily done by pulling the red wire and its contact out of the plug block and insulating it with a bit of heat shrink tubing.

The reason you don't run both the ESC built-in regulator and the external regulator is that it is unwise to directly connect the output of one regulator to the output of another. It would seem that you'd get more available amperage, but the problem comes in with load sharing. Unless perfectly matched, one regulator will dominate and supply most, if not all, of the necessary current. The other one may sit idle, or not do much at all. If you're going to run regulators in parallel, generally a small value resistor with sufficient power handling capability is inserted in series with the output of each regulator. This will aid in the load sharing department, however the insertion of the small value resistor also reduces output voltage based on current drawn by the system.

The other, and more serious, problem that comes about from operating two (or more) regulators in parallel is that the parallel combination may really screw with the individual regulator control loops -- the stuff inside each regulator that causes them to work correctly. The most common problem is that one or both regulator control circuits may go into oscillation, and that could lead to catastrophic failure of the regulator.

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If you are going to use the ICE 100 with an external regulator taking care of the electronics, remove the red wire from the ESC plug and insulate it, and tuck it out of the way.

Make sure you have your ESC plugged into the throttle channel and make sure your other regulator is plugged into the battery port of your RX.

Set the ESC up to use Fixed mode throttle for helicopter use, do NOT use the default airplane "auto calibrate" mode.

Once you've set up the Fixed mode throttle, calibrate your TX throttle channel to the ESC so that the ESC knows the low and high throttle setting values. You may need to adjust both throttle channel endpoints to make this happen correctly.

If you are using a JR/Spektrum transmitter, the throttle channel direction should be "normal", if using a Futaba transmitter, you need to reverse the throttle channel.

Go online if you don't have it, and read the Phoenix setup instructions to make sure you can arm the ESC properly from your TX.
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04-02-2012 04:21 AM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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Do the throttle Calib as shown in the video here then do everything like I said in my above post..

Watch at YouTube

If that doesn't work,send te ESC in and don't run 2 BEC's .
Remember,red wire has to be unhooked unless your hooking it up to the PC..When you hook it up to the PC (red wire installed) ,only hookup the main pack to the ESC..
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04-02-2012 04:51 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Check this out! just shot video.

Watch at YouTube

Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-02-2012 04:57 AM  7 years ago
3dgimble

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Yeah that is shot! Sorry man, for sure I've been there. It is the control board, if you have another you can switch it out, shhhhh!
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04-02-2012 05:00 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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I saw the video but that only means the esc is not set up right, it gets a signal but thats all. I might be wrong but I think you need to reverse the esc in the radio like what was pointed out and calibrate, unless you've done this.

Remember that esc was set up on a spektrum radio system, you use futaba.
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04-02-2012 05:03 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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What control board?Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-02-2012 05:06 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Cheaper than a motor. Guess I will send it in. Shh going to tell the wife I need to buy a new one.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-02-2012 05:10 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Sonny I did do all of that. I'll send it in and get it repaired. No big deal.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-02-2012 12:22 PM  7 years ago
dkshema

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You have a Furaba transmitter. You MUST reverse the throttle channel in the Tx.-----
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04-02-2012 01:14 PM  7 years ago
dkshema

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The ESC will flash and beep error codes that are defined in the manual.

Also, set the overcurrent setting to off or disabled.

The ESC also has settings related to motor starting characteristics you may need to set.
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04-03-2012 05:30 PM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Well the ESC and the motor are perfectly fine. My culpret was a bad solder joint on a bullet to the motor. I am going to take everyones advice and eliminate the external BEC and just run off the Casle BEC. Thanks for the help.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-03-2012 05:51 PM  7 years ago
3dgimble

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Lol, wow, I thought it was the motor wire not connected at first, looking back I had a bad solder joint on a 450 motor setup once did the same thing, sorry, only I did not do the soldering on it. I personally would omit the ESC bec and use an external BEC, like little blue one from castle, works very well for 6S, but I like the V2 BEC Pro better, you can always upgrade to 12S and no need for buying new BEC. Hercules HV works well too, I had a few of them, they say they are really reliable but to me they run way hotter than CC BEC's.
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04-03-2012 07:22 PM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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Damned who was that bald man that soldered that bullet! It lasted 2 year's like that!Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-03-2012 07:48 PM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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Brian,
Your better off running the Align BEC..People have had the built in Castle ICE 100 BEC fail in flight or the whole ESC fails..If something happens to the Castle ICE 100,you still have power to all the electronics and can auto with power..
Ive had a ICE 100 burn up and a ICE 80HV burn up..I still love my Castle ESC's but would NEVER EVER use the BEC..
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