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03-31-2012 11:48 PM  7 years ago
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MichiganFlyer

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Is this a redundant system?
So I bought a used Trex600e. It has a Castle Pheonix ice 100 and an Align BEC. Voltage on the BEC is set to 5.1V and in the ECS too. I have a 2S rx pack and a 6S pack on the ESC.
So both are providing 5.1V to the rx, correct? and if one fails the other is still supplying power to the rx, correct?
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03-31-2012 11:55 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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No no no....If you have an external BEC the one in the ESC HAS TO BE disabled.I literally never use the word literally right.
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03-31-2012 11:57 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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Look and I bet the red wire from the ESC to the RX is unhooked and if not it should be.I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 12:08 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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It was but the ESC would not respond. Once I hooked it back up everthing worked perfect. Put 2 flight on it today with no problems.
What effect does it have with the red wire hooked up? Am I supplying 10.2V to the rx?
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04-01-2012 12:09 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Seems like it is just 5.1V from 2 sources. if one fails the other would keep it going.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-01-2012 12:10 AM  7 years ago
JPhillips

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Sorry can't help you OP, I don't know anything about the BECs, I don't use them and don't pretend to know about them. But from what I have heard, Align electronics typically fail pretty quickly; but that's just speculation.
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04-01-2012 12:14 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Only thing I can see is with 2 sources is I increased my available amps. Which is always a good thing.Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-01-2012 12:28 AM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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nmI literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 12:30 AM  7 years ago
JPhillips

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The only redundant system I know of is within a switch.

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04-01-2012 12:32 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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Okay, back on track. What makes my setup wrong?Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-01-2012 12:34 AM  7 years ago
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Any point in a circuit must have only one voltage level. If you connect 2 voltage regulators tl one location, they will fight against each other to try and control that location's voltage. Yes, I realize they are both 5.1v regs, but they are not EXACTLY 5.1v. One will be attempting to control to a slightly different voltage than the other. Which one wins depends on a lot of factors. The most likely scenario is that the one set to a lower voltage will essentially turn itself off, and the other will supply power.

You could use a current meter to see which one is working nd which is standby.

Personally, I wouldn't bother with redundancy because of the added weight...

Edit: nothing technically wrong with it. And yes, generally speaking, when one quits the other will take over. Exception to that would be some sort of short circuit that could render them blt dead.
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04-01-2012 12:52 AM  7 years ago
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The two power supplies fighting each other can cause some damage but I don't know the specifics other than the fact that Castle Creations,Scorpion,Western Robotics,Align and a few others have all said DON"T DO IT.I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 12:53 AM  7 years ago
sonnyhad

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You only need one source to the rx. The way it was set up with the rx battery is so it was not drawing on the flight battery. If you are using the esc. you don't need the rx battery. But they came that way, using the rx battery for a reason i guess. But then again that was way back when it had an Align esc. But the answer's the same, you only need one power source for the receiver and servo's.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-01-2012 12:56 AM  7 years ago
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But you are running a FBL system on that heli, you gotta find out why the esc won't arm before you damage something with 2 battery sources hooked up.Bald Pilots usually wear hats!
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04-01-2012 01:13 AM  7 years ago
Jeff polisena

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I have had CC escs that needed the red wire pluged in to arm , there is no power coming out for RX . I'm not very knowledgable on technical verbiage but I would not recommend having two different power sources feeding at same time . If you want redundancy there are better options .I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)
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04-01-2012 01:17 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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The ESC would just error out until I hooked up the red wire.
I am running a R6208SB rx on this heli.
Here is the procedure I was doing when it would error out with the red ESC not connected.
Plug in the rx pack
turn the BEC swith to on
once everything initialized plug in the ESC pack.
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04-01-2012 01:20 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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If you want redundancy there are better options .
Not looking for it, just wondering if it is. Might eliminate the BEC and rx pack as it now seems unnessasary.
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04-01-2012 01:28 AM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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Look up the Align ESC.
It may need a wire moved as well as the red wire unhooked.

EDIT: I think I'm thinking of the Align RPM sensor...NM
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 01:31 AM  7 years ago
MichiganFlyer

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I have a Castle ESCFriends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.
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04-01-2012 01:36 AM  7 years ago
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I literally never use the word literally right.
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