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04-02-2012 02:51 AM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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I know for a fact that my cordless drill doesn't come close to jack hammering anything.If it did,I would use my Torquemaster with a 3S or 4S lipos..Been starting my 50 and 90 size helis daily with it for 3 year.Never had a single issue and I use a tiny 2S 1900mAh lipo..

So you know Jason,the whole reason a cordless drill has a adjustable clutch is so it doesn't jack hammer and it doesn't keep spinning when the object its turning stops..Maybe other drills jack hammer but I know ones with adjustable clutches don't..
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04-02-2012 02:56 AM  7 years ago
unclejane

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So you know Jason,the whole reason a cordless drill has a adjustable clutch is so it doesn't jack hammer and it doesn't keep spinning when the object its turning stops..Maybe other drills jack hammer but I know ones with adjustable clutches don't..
True - my DeWalt has an adjustable clutch on it which allows you to dial in slippage over a very wide range.

I've thought from time to time about getting a wand for it and using it for my 700, if I didn't already have a starter.....

LS
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04-02-2012 04:25 AM  7 years ago
semper_fish

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wow we have some real trolls on here bashing the Align starter. Hopefully you have been convinced by the positive feed back already and bought it. It is a great starter.
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04-02-2012 04:41 AM  7 years ago
rudyy

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Based on my experience and from what I heard..

For 50 size engine, yes, it is a great starter.
For 90 size engine, maybe .. it also depends on what engine...
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04-02-2012 08:14 AM  7 years ago
JasonJ

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I used my Makita before I bought the Align. It worked okay but it was a pain keeping track of it. When I needed it to fly it was somewhere that I used it around the house. When I needed it for an around the house job it was stuffed in a flight box. Getting a dedicated starter was the only answer. And yes, despite adjusting the clutch it jackhammered. Not as much as the Align but it did do it a bit. Figured it wasn't worth possibly messing up an almost $300 drill. I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done with a drill, I'm just saying there are better cheaper ways to do it. Either the Align or a frankenstarter work better for me and don't take up as much space as a drill. It's all cool though, any way that works is a good way in the end when the goal is to get out and fly.
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04-02-2012 09:10 AM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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I'm just saying there are better cheaper ways to do it.
I don't think so, ok if you want a Ferrari you gotta pay $$ for it, there are million of those drill choices, it isn't Align or Sullivan any more.
When I needed it for an around the house job it was stuffed in a flight box.
Most of those drills have a nice locking case, charger and it's on li-ion battery.

My job today is to find the suitable drill actually.

And remember that, Sullivan Dynatron with it fixed funky funny starter shaft will be almost 2 feet long when you put it in the fieldbox.
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04-02-2012 09:20 AM  7 years ago
Egroeg

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Starts the OS 105R no sweat!No Pitch...No Fun!
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04-02-2012 12:53 PM  7 years ago
USNAviationjay

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Had one.. always had problems with it hammering my YS91SRs

it would start them.. but only after jackhammering them.

and the stock shafts were terrible.
always rounded out.

got Ron Lund to make me one of his custom shafts for it never stripped it again..

but still prefer a dynatron any day over the align..
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04-02-2012 12:55 PM  7 years ago
Helicrazy4

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+1 dynatron any day over the alignFollowing Jesus
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04-02-2012 01:04 PM  7 years ago
unclejane

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got Ron Lund to make me one of his custom shafts for it never stripped it again..
Could you elaborate on this? I bought mine from Ron Lund and the cheezy rounding-off ball end shaft is my only real problem with it. Does he stock a better shaft or ?

LS
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04-02-2012 01:15 PM  7 years ago
USNAviationjay

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Yeh he does he custom makes them from a high quality hex and then custom drills them for the Align.

you can call him see if he still makes these.

he had these actually on the site for a while but dont see them now..

but I bet he would make them if you called.
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04-02-2012 08:08 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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Update, I ordered a white motor replacement for my Dynatron,it is just 32$, but unfortunately it is out of stock ever ware, I will wait for it and keep my $$ for the funy honey sullivan shaft, it still over prices (( 65 ishhh))
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04-02-2012 08:13 PM  7 years ago
A&J

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Pegae flex shaft starter system one of best in my bookLets do the time warp againnn !
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04-02-2012 08:13 PM  7 years ago
JasonJ

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Carrying a drill in a separate case defeats my purpose of being able to carry all my stuff in a single box. My frankenstarter does not have a permanent start shaft mounted. It stuffs into the cup because I also have to be able to start my airplane. Everything I am saying is what I am doing for my situation and I like things simple and quick. That means one flight box, not several boxes to have to carry to my vehicle. If someone else does it different then fine. Many ways to skin the cat. I do it this way because after years in the hobby I have learned what works best for me and a drill is not it.
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04-02-2012 08:36 PM  7 years ago
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I used my Align starter on my 91 OS powered Huey with no problems and I now use it for many aircraft including my OS 200 FS powered Camel, I used to own a Dynatron but got fed up with it breaking my arm as its so heavy the Align starter is perfect fo me and have had no problems in over two years use.
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04-02-2012 08:49 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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JasonJ
I thought the same, I don't like to carry more than one field box, so it is just a field box and a heli, but I will buy a cordless drill for all purpose, I have small chines cordless and it works like a train, and I have Black and Decker corded, so I need one more just in case any other problem.

So for the sullivan shaft, can I remove it easily? or I should re screw it?
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04-02-2012 09:37 PM  7 years ago
JasonJ

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I would say screw it on permanently if it can be carried in your flight box reasonably easy.
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04-02-2012 09:52 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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I made two simple custom field box like this exactly, so I can not carry it with the funky shaft.

Watch at YouTube

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04-02-2012 10:25 PM  7 years ago
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As far as I'm concerned the dynatron or the yellow smaller one are the best if you buy the finer edge makita battery adapter. The battery will last a long time and 18volts seems to be a nice combination for the dynatron. It spins fast but if you hydrolock it will not have enough power to damage your motor, it might if you keep pulling the trigger trying to force it but if it doesn't turn then just stop and pull the plug and purge it.

If your worried about hydrolock then learn how to operate your motor to prevent this, any time it happens is almost always the fault of the user.

It is more money but I think its a better value, it will last forever and works very well.
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04-03-2012 12:01 AM  7 years ago
Blax1

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I'm still using my Ryobi 18v drill with a Sullivan one way, works a treat but admittedly cumbersome.
On the weekend a mate loaned me an Align starter which I used on OS91C-Spec and it worked perfectly, so it got me thinking maybe I should get one, before I do though how is this starter on a YS120? There a lot more compression to spin over with this engine, I'm starting a new Aurora project soon with this motor in mind, does the Align starter struggle with the 120 motor?

Any info appreciated

BTW With Hydro lock, just tip heli over on exhaust side and crank it 99% of time it will clear, a bit fiddly to do, get some help to hold heli-
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