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04-01-2012 03:26 PM  7 years ago
unclejane

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I've used my Dynatron with 6S LiPo for years. No problem at all. The Align hammers like an impact wrench. It can damage your motor. I would not recommend it. The Dynatron gives a smooth, strong spin.
This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Look at that thing - it's got enough torque and power to fly a full scale all by itself especially with a 6S batt. Whew....

All it would take is one accidental hydraulic lock event and the results could be really destructive to not just your expensive engine, but the clutch OWB and start shaft.

Those starters are designed for large airplane engines, not helis, and really they shouldn't be used for heli starting applications.

Like I said, the align starter's auto shutoff feature is worth the entire cost of it all by itself. The first time it saves your flooded engine it pays for itself....

LS
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04-01-2012 04:20 PM  7 years ago
rudyy

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This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Look at that thing - it's got enough torque and power to fly a full scale all by itself especially with a 6S batt. Whew....

All it would take is one accidental hydraulic lock event and the results could be really destructive to not just your expensive engine, but the clutch OWB and start shaft.

Those starters are designed for large airplane engines, not helis, and really they shouldn't be used for heli starting applications.

Like I said, the align starter's auto shutoff feature is worth the entire cost of it all by itself. The first time it saves your flooded engine it pays for itself....

LS
Do not use 6S, just use 5S. It will not be strong enough to damage the engine in the event of hydraulic lock.
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04-01-2012 04:26 PM  7 years ago
unclejane

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Or better yet, just get a starter that's designed for a heli application to begin with like the align... Costs about the same as the huge monster and you won't have to worry about the problem anymore...

LS
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04-01-2012 04:31 PM  7 years ago
chamler

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2 years on my align starter with a 90. Zero problems.trex 250-450v2proFB - 450 v2pro FBL-500-600-700 / Mini Protos / Synergy N5C
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04-01-2012 06:15 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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So guys how about Hobbico hight tourqe 180, it is just 40 dollars in tower hobbies, any news?
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04-01-2012 06:38 PM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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unclejane
Or better yet, just get a starter that's designed for a heli application to begin with like the align... Costs about the same as the huge monster and you won't have to worry about the problem anymore...
Why don't ya post a link to all the other starters that says its not a heli starter?
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04-01-2012 06:57 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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Why don't ya post a link to all the other starters that says its not a heli starter?
To be fair,the Dynatron is not a heli specific starter but they sell adapters that make them work with helis.
It has the open end to put on the cone on the front of plank props.

They sell all kinds of adapters for it for different uses.

The Align starter is specifically built for helis.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 06:57 PM  7 years ago
unclejane

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Why don't ya post a link to all the other starters that says its not a heli starter?
Never said they weren't. All I said was the align is specifically designed for heli duty - the problem with the dynatron has nothing to do with specialty for purpose (only that it's waaay too strong).

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04-01-2012 07:00 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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This is their site and the word heli or helicopter is nowhere on the site.

http://www.sullivanproducts.com/StartersContent.htm
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 07:02 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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Take it back...The last thing on the page is a replacement wand for the helicopter adapter.I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 07:06 PM  7 years ago
McKrackin

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and pay attention...I am not saying anything is better than anything.
I'm answering the OP and saying mine works great for me.

It is others,as always,imposing their stuff on people.

I never try to make my stuff look better.
I get accused of it but all I do is answer the question as far as my own experience allows.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 07:33 PM  7 years ago
JasonJ

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I bought my Align starter the day it came out back in early summer 09. I still use it to this day. Only issue I have had was the one way in the shaft gave out so I bought another shaft. I also bought the airplane cup. Biggest thing I have started with it is a 50cc gasser plane that wouldn't start by hand flipping the prop. I also bought a brand new yellow Sullivan at a swap meet for $10 and a retired 4000mah 4s heli battery for $10 at a different swap meet. I built up a pretty sweet starter using the bad shaft from the Align that just stuffs in the cup on the Sullivan. I did it so I would have a backup starter and also it works better in very cold temps where the Align wasn't spinning the motor fast enough. Overall I prefer the Align, it is easier to use and more compact. In all fairness if I got a 90 I would probably use my Sullivan frankenstarter but I feel the Align is unmatched for 50 size and below.
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04-01-2012 11:30 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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This is my next starter, seriously

Watch at YouTube

Do not buy it, just buy a good cordless drill that has 1400rpm and the hex 6mm, plug and play, I try it my self and it is very very very damn good, easy to store, easy to remove, easy to carry, easy to use all around.
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04-01-2012 11:53 PM  7 years ago
6cuda6

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Truth is the starters are really just an electric motor with an adapter. A good 18v cordless drill will do exactly the same [as per video]....a few years ago a specific starter was needed only because they had way more power than the cordless drills, today i would suspect the drill may be a better purchase ??? [price point is going to be important here]

Personaly i think if your going to start 90's and bigger you better get something that works for the application [and i have seen plenty of starter shafts beat up by none Align starters simply because they were not the proper one].

No one has taken into account that the motor being used has alot to do with weither or not a particular starter will actually work or not......
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04-01-2012 11:58 PM  7 years ago
whiskey

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Had an align starter. Piece of junk.
Got a
Makita/finer edge/dynatron. Best decision I've made with nitros. Smooth start every time.
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04-02-2012 12:17 AM  7 years ago
BladeStrikes

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Yup,I also use a cordless Makita drill with a 2S 1900mAh lipo and love it .Charge last 2-3 weeks and it has a adjustable clutch.If the motor floods and locks ,I have nothing to worry about and it doesn't bang the hell out of the motor,shaft or anything..My Torque master starter collects dust lol..

Its started all my nitros (50/90 size) for the past 3 years without any issues..
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04-02-2012 12:32 AM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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Enjoy this wonderful hobby
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04-02-2012 12:50 AM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

http://www.tylertool.com/factory-re...ap=HDB180-02-RT
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04-02-2012 01:11 AM  7 years ago
Dood

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Lots of 2-gallon experts on RunRyder sure love the Align starter.
but what matters are what the PROS who fly every day think about it.

Have a look at these comments

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04-02-2012 02:14 AM  7 years ago
JasonJ

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The cold was exactly why I built my frankenstarter. The Align just wasn't cutting it on a 20 degree day. Works fine when warm out though. Burned a little more than 2 gallons since 09 but what do I know. I still say bigger than a 50 should use a frankenstarter. Gear reduction setups like the Align or cordless drills jackhammer while a Big motor with no gears is nice and smooth. I think part of the jackhammering is a function of the heli start system itself. There is zero jackhammering when you start and airplane motor and I have started up to that aforementioned 50cc gasser along with 1.20 glow engines and whatnot. Must be the oneway in the heli start shaft system along with the oneway in the align shaft creates and exaggerated jackhammering effect.
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