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03-31-2012 04:03 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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Looool, I agree, but remember that if the sullivan was 99 with the sullivan shaft, I will not even watch Align one, Sullivan did a good job for my all round rc, from Gas planks to nitro helis, it never miss up, And If my Sullivan's shaft wasn't broke, I will not any another starter ever.
And I broke it with crazy issue (( Put cheap HK shaft on it and 24V and start it hardly))
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03-31-2012 04:09 PM  7 years ago
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Yup,if the "jackhammer" was enough to damage metal parts,it would hurt like hell in your hand made of much flimsier materials

Your hand and wrist absorb most of the force and the auto shut off prevents blowing the head off the engine or turning the crank and rod into a pretzel.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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03-31-2012 05:08 PM  7 years ago
sharam

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I am back to using my Dynatron (at 12 Volts) with the Sullivan wand.

The Align starter did not work out well for me. The wand rounded out quickly and the internal circuit board shorted out twice. I was using a 3S Lipo. It had a tough time turning over my OS 91 HZ.

Maybe I just got a bad unit to start with.

The jackhammer action did not hurt my hand or damage the engine.
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03-31-2012 05:10 PM  7 years ago
dchekas

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I've used both.

In the winter, the Align starter works, but it's definitely a little tougher to start the .90 with it. Of course, the engines in general are a little tougher to start in the winter, but the align bogs down a little more.

Summer time, the align starter spins my OS91HZ-R over no problem, and starts very quickly.

I did have the ball end round out on my align starter after about 5 months of use. I picked up the RJX starter shaft, and have been using it for a few weeks. It's $5 and supposedly made of a stronger, hardened material. So far, so good.
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03-31-2012 05:27 PM  7 years ago
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03-31-2012 05:41 PM  7 years ago
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I miss my DA and DLE gas engines wooooooooooooooow, What a nice video, thanks.

Align all the way.
You don't know how hard to pull 50cc gas engine with 11.1V starter.

But why you do not flip it with your hand tho
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03-31-2012 05:58 PM  7 years ago
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I sold my Dynatron with 6S lipo to go to the Align. I couldn't be happier with my choice. The Align starts everything I've tried (I use it to start my gasser now), it's small, light, and lasts forever on a charge. I doubt I could use to it spin over a full scale plane like my Dynatron would on 6S, but that's not what I need. I feel bad for the poor people who can't handle the vibrations in their hand, it must be really difficult to go through life so weak, because I've never had a heli have an issue with it.

As for the start shaft, it does suck. Helidirect sells a hardened replacement for $5 that solves that problem.
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03-31-2012 06:02 PM  7 years ago
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If a prof is talking, Veteran shouldn't argue.
Thanks
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03-31-2012 06:03 PM  7 years ago
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03-31-2012 06:44 PM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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LLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL,
Actually, since I bought my first Vibe 50, I every day learn something new here.

Thank you RR.
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04-01-2012 02:35 AM  7 years ago
JeffKollin

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What size battery are you guys using in the Align starter, mah and c rating
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04-01-2012 02:46 AM  7 years ago
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Hyperion 2100mAh 3S 20CI literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 03:24 AM  7 years ago
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Align starter is not a high revs starer, it uses a good set of gears to make it happen, as they give it the torque needed to crank our engines.- Therefore It is of no sorprice it can start 50cc gas engines.

That been said, it slow rpms/ low torque specification make it a jack hammer and It's shaft ball will round itself every single time.

I have tried regular, harderned shafts and it is all the same.
Since shaft is of smaller diameter then standard, you can not use any other brand but align and it's clones.

It is really not about staring a 90 or not, of course it can but will ruin your heli dices very often.

My only Align heli is a 450 and; I always used it on my other brand nitros, TT, JRs & Hirobos and it did not performe well for me and got tired of it; now a days it is relegated to planks.

Sullivan high-torque can not be used with 22 volts LiPos even though it's specifications say so; the starter swith is form by a little rectangular plaque that solder itself ( glue to, that is ) with the high amps and the heat produced by; if you insist on trying then the swith will get ruin by not releasing, totally toasted !

All in all, my 2 cents goto Sullivan shaft & starter with a 11.1V, 2000+ mAh LiPo; it is the best combo for me.
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04-01-2012 03:51 AM  7 years ago
Jacoub

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All in all, my 2 cents goto Sullivan shaft & starter with a 11.1V, 2000+ mAh LiPo; it is the best combo for me.
I had this sullivan, And I will not buy the sullivan shaft for ever, why? because it's over the normal price, it is almost the dynatron price.
So, for 120$ align starter with a nice small super power and a nice carrying case either it isn't a bad deal.

Sullivan dynatron with Funny shaft = 99+ 70= 169$
169$+modified stand for battery= Heavy + bad looking heli starter.
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04-01-2012 04:36 AM  7 years ago
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That been said, it slow rpms/ low torque specification make it a jack hammer and It's shaft ball will round itself every single time.
You guys aren't putting the shaft in all the way or something.

Two seasons and mine doesn't even show any wear yet.

Hold it down in the cup and don't let it out til it's running.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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04-01-2012 04:37 AM  7 years ago
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I have both. The Align starts my YS 91 no problem. The Dynatron is heavy and torquey. My buddy can't start his YS 120 unless it's his Dynatron.
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04-01-2012 06:41 AM  7 years ago
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Sullivan high-torque can not be used with 22 volts LiPos even though it's specifications say so; the starter swith is form by a little rectangular plaque that solder itself ( glue to, that is ) with the high amps and the heat produced by; if you insist on trying then the swith will get ruin by not releasing, totally toasted !
I've used my Dynatron with 6S LiPo for years. No problem at all. The Align hammers like an impact wrench. It can damage your motor. I would not recommend it. The Dynatron gives a smooth, strong spin.

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04-01-2012 12:31 PM  7 years ago
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Never owned an Align starter. I've seen them in use at our field and at funflies. They suck. But then I already knew that already just by Align's history with anything electronic.

Never go by a salesman's recommendation. Factory reps are salespeople. They push products. Bert is a great guy. It's just business.
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04-01-2012 02:21 PM  7 years ago
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I think Align's allen drivers and starters are superior to their helis (which aren't bad).

Four guys at my field including me use the Align starter for up to 90 size birds and not one issue. No issues with the starter shaft rounding.. nothing.. I use a cheap 3S lipo and charge it every other month maybe.
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04-01-2012 03:03 PM  7 years ago
rudyy

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Align starter.. it can never start my YS 91 SR-3DS engine. The jackhammer effect makes my hand feel so painful.

I use Dynatron/Red Sullivan shaft on 5S lipo. It works like a charm.
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