RunRyder RC
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3     NEXT    >> ] 10585 views Post Reply
HomeScale✈️AircraftScale HeliScale Helicopter Main Discussion Docs  Vario 1/4 Hughes 500E
04-06-2012 06:05 AM  9 years ago
kiwiheli

rrNovice

NZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic

KDE Direct will have a 295Kv available one day, so I'll wait for that to come out as I think that it will be a good set up with the benzie mechanics.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-09-2012 09:27 PM  9 years ago
kiwiheli

rrNovice

NZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
hughes 500e t-rex600 video
I know this has nothing to do with the Vario build, but I Finally got a video clip made for my T-rex 600e hughes 500e. Thanks for watching

Watch at YouTube

SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2012 08:59 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Motors and servos
I have been using a Scorpion MKIII 4035-330kv motor on a stock Benzin 9:1 (12s). My calculations (no reality check yet) say 1175 headspeed at approx 81% throttle. I am no expert. And this is a pod and boom at approx.17.5#. Stock blades. My impression is that there is plenty power and plenty head room to recover from mistakes. Afer a 9min heavy hover flight (I'm a learner), the motor is hot enough that you can't keep your hand on it for 3-4sec. No measurement yet. But rest is cool to cold in 95deg outside temps. I think I could slow it down further. No other motor experience to compare with. Just some data to consider.

I found MKS servos to be quality, beefy, and propabaly overkill. Not a bad price @ approx $125 IMHO. Metal case (and top), dual BB, Titanium gears. I use DS670 for tail and DS670 for cyclic. Check out the torque (365oz in @6v?) and speeds for both and see if you like.

Nice project. Will follow. Starting the 500D soon.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-11-2012 09:04 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Correction
Correction...MKS DS 660A+ for cyclics. As low as $110.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 01:44 AM  9 years ago
kiwiheli

rrNovice

NZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Finally finished the main wood work in side, getting the correct height, and the skids at the correct angle. I little time consuming but it's done.

SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 01:51 AM  9 years ago
Skytrek

rrApprentice

Suffolk, Va

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Awesome job! Great fitting work..... nice and neat! Not as easy as it looks to get the proportions correct.Barry London
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 01:59 AM  9 years ago
kiwiheli

rrNovice

NZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Thanks Skytrek,
It's my first big build and it's taken me 2 months, on and off, to get to this point. I still have so little things to add and triple check before it gets put in once and for all. I have had to walk away from it a couple of times before I smashed it, but came back to it after a few glasses of wine
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 02:23 AM  9 years ago
Skytrek

rrApprentice

Suffolk, Va

MyPosts All Forum Topic
It's my first big build and it's taken me 2 months, on and off, to get to this point. I still have so little things to add and triple check before it gets put in once and for all. I have had to walk away from it a couple of times before I smashed it, but came back to it after a few glasses of wine
LOL Yep, I have felt the same way on more than one occasion. Wine...beer...helps. I find a nice shot of whiskey is sometimes in order too! More than worth the effort!
Barry London
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 03:33 AM  9 years ago
Rodan

rrVeteran

Prescott Valley, AZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Lookin' good!

...and somewhat familiar!

Are you going to extend the front of the skids?
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 07:36 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Gigs & Access
Liked the two examples of gigs yall made. Has to help with the difficult job of the Hughes LG. Thinking it is one of the hardest parts of the build.

For quicker access, have you considered magnets (many) for the nose and maybe top cover? Is the basic fuse sturdy enough to hold it's shape after formers go in?
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 09:59 AM  9 years ago
kiwiheli

rrNovice

NZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Hi Rodan,
I see that your 500 has had time on the Jigvery nice, have you finished it yet? I will extend the skids in time but for now I just want to get everthing in and working, and will play around with all the detail work later.

95nostalgia, Hi,
The Landing Gear is an important part of the 500E if you want to make it look good and scale like. I'm not a pro in the model building world but I have seen alot of 500e ( scale models )that have the skids too high and positioned incorrectly. It does take time to get it right and after alot of F* up's it's all good. In regards to using magnet on the nose or the dog housing, I don't think I'll be using the magnets, don't know why, maybe just paranoid it may come off in flight with vibration etc.

Thanks.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 12:09 PM  9 years ago
Rodan

rrVeteran

Prescott Valley, AZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
I still have lots of work to do on mine, but hope to have it flying soon. Too many other projects!

Here's how it sits at the moment:

SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 01:31 PM  9 years ago
Mojave

rrElite Veteran

Palos Verdes, Ca. USA

MyPosts All Forum Topic
That is one good looking heli and a heck of a lot of work to get the gear correct. Vario should have a better way of mounting the skids to make it easier and less time consuming/involved on the builder. I'd also like to see one done with the short LG config. It has always been a preference of mine on the 500E.
Barry
All helis and planes have an expiration date stamped on them...you only find it after you crash!!
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 01:44 PM  9 years ago
shawmcky

rrElite Veteran

Isle of Wight,United Kingdom

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Mojave,that is an awesome set of pictures in your galleryTeam- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
05-14-2012 03:34 PM  9 years ago
Mojave

rrElite Veteran

Palos Verdes, Ca. USA

MyPosts All Forum Topic
ThanksAll helis and planes have an expiration date stamped on them...you only find it after you crash!!
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
06-14-2012 09:36 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Magnets
Kiwiheli. I understand about the magnets. But if you use and position them right, they can hold very well. I am more afraid that they are close to electronics. A 600 size 500 I did with magnets snapped closed very hard and the whole nose was tight and secure.

I have seen several 500 doors come open in flight with two magnets. Don't know if it's presure building up inside or what so keep in mind. Also two ground resonance mishaps both of which were on take off from really smooth surfaces. Could be a matter of air getting under the belly too (the helicopter...not the pilot). Will try to revist and see if they had lower and squattier LG or not. I suspect they were stock.

Yours is coming along very nicely and one of my favs. Just take time and only build when inspired (or send to me...ha). Clean work.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
06-14-2012 12:30 PM  9 years ago
fla heli boy

rrElite Veteran

cape coral, florida

MyPosts All Forum Topic
+1 on that gallery Mojave!!!
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
06-22-2012 08:37 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Feedback on Scorp 330kv
FYI feedback on Scorp motor. No apples to apples but...

After 35 flights on 17.5# Benzin pod n boom, my 4035HKiii 330kv motor runs 107F max after heavy hovering flights of 8:20 minutes in HOT Texas heat of 95deg plus. That is measuring the shaft temp. This is 1/2 of their recommended max. I have Boca ceramic bearings and stock blades running at 1170rpm. $250ish plus shaft plus bearings. Other motors can run cooler I understand. Seems to be plenty of power/headroom with this one..

You opted for 1810mm blades instead of the recommended 1820's. Was there a reason?

How did you decide on the landing gear mods? Photoshop? Overlaying angles from a real heli?

UPS man has not sent your heli to me to finish so I am assuming you are busy. Keep us posted.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
06-22-2012 02:13 PM  9 years ago
Rodan

rrVeteran

Prescott Valley, AZ

MyPosts All Forum Topic
I used photoshop to overlay the Vario with pics of the full size to figure what I needed to do.

This pic was particularly useful, as it shows the skids unweighted, as they would be in flight:

Overlayed with the stock Vario skids:

You can see that not only is the angle wrong, but so is the mounting location...

The full size will 'sag' on the ground, but this is difficult to simulate with the models because of the lower weight. I decided I wanted it to look right in the air.

Mine was also a little more complicated because I bought the fuse second hand, with the skids already built, so I had to cut them off and start over.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
06-25-2012 11:25 AM  9 years ago
95nostalgia

rrApprentice

US of A

MyPosts All Forum Topic
Rodan's Nice 500
Rodan..Oh yes. I read your post with great interest as I have been a user of Photoshop since it was first introduced. I have used it for combining tri-color separation of deep space photographs thru telescopes I built to lowering a hot rod for just the right stance. Your ingenious use of PS is just another example of how it can be used in our hobby. Good job. Now...where's the template and your shop notes so I don;t have to reinvent the wheel? Ha. Guess you can't do all our work for us, huh?

I really like the stance and I am sure kiwiheli's will benefit. Should be staring my own H-5-Honey sometime this summer.

Kiwiheli...we're all waiting for an update.
SHARE  PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 3 pages [ <<    <     1     ( 2 )     3     NEXT    >> ] 10585 views Post Reply
HomeScale✈️AircraftScale HeliScale Helicopter Main Discussion Docs  Vario 1/4 Hughes 500E
Print TOPIC

 15  Topic Subscribe

Thursday, August 5 - 6:50 am - Copyright © 2000-2021 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online