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03-29-2012 08:32 PM  7 years ago
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Ten Things That We’ve Learned from the Trayvon Martin Tragedy - Excellent Read
1) So far there has been very little new light shed on exactly what happened on the night of the shooting. It is likely that Mr. Zimmerman will be arrested on some sort of charge, local, state, or federal, and more likely that most will believe that such an arrest is as much a necessary price to soothe racial passions as it is likely to be based on careful review of existing evidence.

2) Identity in this ill society is everything — something to be put on and taken off as one sees advantage. Civil-rights supporters prefer to wear hoodies in rallies and demonstrations in solidarity with the hooded Mr. Martin, but prefer the media to continue to show pictures of a young-looking victim in football attire that better offers a sympathetic portrait to the general public. Hispanic and Democratic George Zimmerman, had he Hispanicized his name (something like a Jorge Zimmerman, or had he used his mother’s Latino maiden name), would have either found a supportive chorus from Latino activists, or the entire case of Latino-black crime would not have had commensurate resonance. If Mr. Zimmerman were applying for a civil-service job, no one would have created the new rubric “white Hispanic.” Even at this late date, if he were to use his mother’s maiden name as part of a hyphenated last name, he would earn more empathy. Unfortunately, he found himself pigeonholed as a white conservative vigilante, not a Hispanic Democrat, and that has made all the difference in his media profile.

3) The hysteria is not just over the death of a young African-American male, because hundreds are tragically killed to near silence every year, 94 percent of them by other African-American males. Nor is the outrage over a supposed white war against black men, given that in incidents of interracial crime, the latter kill the former far more frequently. Nor is it just over the decision, so far, of the police not to arrest and indict George Zimmerman, because hundreds of black assailants of other blacks each year find themselves not charged for capital crimes, because of the proven difficulties of obtaining critical affidavits, and the reluctance of eye-witnesses to come forward in the inner-city. In general, there are no marches or demonstrations over what has become a case of sheer carnage of one particular racial and gender group in our cities, or the frequent inability to bring murder suspects to trial. Finally, if the deceased had been white, and there are numerous whites killed each year in self-defense cases, with the facts as we know them so far unchanged, there would be zero national interest.

4) There are no such things any more as overtly recognized racial smears, at least not in the absolute sense. They now depend on perceptions of who says what and why, a relative condition. The country is obsessed with decoding a scratchy tape to ascertain whether Mr. Zimmerman said “cold, coons, goons, or punks,” with the idea that if the garbled word proves a racial slur, then we have the magical key that will supposedly unlock the case — even as the late Travyon Martin self-identified himself with the N-word on his Twitter account and used it of his friends. No one can explain why Mr. Martin felt a need to so self-identify; no one seems to care; and no one can provide rules of the conditions under which (who says it, and when, why, how) society must deplore the use of such an epithet.

5) The country is unhinged and pays no attention to simple logic. The mother of Trayvon Martin deplores society’s supposed media obsession over her son, even as she seeks to trademark her son’s name for traditional marketing purposes, after avowing her legal efforts are only to protect his legacy. We are to deplore the use of past information about Mr. Martin that might lend background information to the case (past suspensions, possible drug use, alleged possession of possible stolen items, etc.) that seems at odds with the narratives provided by the media, but simultaneously must be told that in the past Mr. Zimmerman was a vigilante, racist, had brushes with the law, was a bad credit risk, etc. In short, we are to accept that background information is a relative issue, and a necessary means only if it leads to proper ends.

6) There really is no law. The Martins have legitimate questions about the absence of an indictment, as do many in this country who are unhappy with the use of self-defense pleas. That said, no one believes the Black Panthers will be charged with a felony for posting an open-season bounty on Mr. Zimmerman; no one believes that Spike Lee’s deliberate attempt to incite a mob reaction at the Zimmerman residence will even be considered a misdemeanor; and no one believes that a crowd of protestors detouring into a pharmacy to loot it will face arrests for theft. Everyone believes that if he were to emulate any of the above behavior in a non-racially-charged case, he would most surely risk some sort of legal repercussions.

7) There can be no more presidential editorializing. In this case, the Gates matter, the Fluke incident, and the Giffords tragedy, the president weighed in only to find his commentary either unsupported by facts, premature, prejudicial, or abjectly partisan. Nor will the attorney general weigh in, given that he has lost credibility after nonsensically calling the nation “cowards” for not wishing for a dialogue on race on his terms, referring to African-Americans as “my people,” and alleging racism as the cause of congressional questioning of his handling of the Fast and Furious debacle.

8) Mr. Zimmerman indeed may be guilty of second-degree murder, some sort of manslaughter, criminal negligence, or innocent by reason of self-defense. But we are at a point now where such considerations have become secondary to the larger agendas of activists. Mr. Sharpton, Mr. Jackson, the Black Panther Party, the Black Caucus, Spike Lee, and others may feel their invective and shoot-from-the-hip allegations are necessary to ensure an indictment, given the history of racial bias in this country; but fairly or not that aim seems secondary to their larger interests in racial scapegoating and acrimony for careerist reasons. Of course, they are not worried about such criticism, but it nonetheless is widely shared, as the opportunism and lack of ethics of the current self-identified civil-rights establishment is becoming a national consensus.

9) Most who editorialize so passionately on this case, black and white, live in cities, but most likely as far away from those neighborhoods and inner-city schools where murder is an epidemic as they can. They are engaging in de facto profiling in every aspect of their and their childrens’ lives, based on general perceptions, personal experience, and statistical data. Profiling and stereotyping are for others; a “good” or “safe” area is for the more sensitive and educated.

10) If an outsider were dispassionately to collate the public statements of the Black Caucus, the number of widely publicized racial controversies, and the charges of racism and counter-racism in the last three years, then one would conclude that racial relations, at least at the media and sensationalized level, from 2009–2012 were both far more emphasized and far worse, and the country far more polarized, than at any time in recent memory. In short, we are entering a dangerous phase in which millions of Americans have resigned themselves to allowing elites to construct one sort of reality, while they disengage from it and privately live quite another.
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03-29-2012 09:02 PM  7 years ago
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Its all about mob mentality and it works in America.

Its a crying shame.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
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03-30-2012 03:19 PM  7 years ago
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good post Doug.
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03-31-2012 12:09 AM  7 years ago
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This type of thing will continue to happen as long as we have people such as Dumbo in what used to be called the White House, Escargo on this Forum, the Black Panthers and other low down scum of the earth in charge of things!!! Impeach the HMIC or HNIC!!!
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03-31-2012 12:12 AM  7 years ago
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This type of thing will continue to happen as long as we have people such as Dumbo in what used to be called the White House, Escargo on this Forum, the Black Panthers and other low down scum of the earth in charge of things!!! Impeach the HMIC or HNIC!!!
If we ALL ignore Esco here on RR and we ALL Ignore Obama in November they both will go away in short time.

I think punk a$$ Trayvon racially profiled Zimmerman as an innocent honky that wouldnt have any protection.Mr Martin was wrong. LOL
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04-01-2012 03:16 AM  7 years ago
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04-01-2012 02:02 PM  7 years ago
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Biden says:"The bulk of the people end up being shot with their own weapon"
Zimmerman knew this and didnt allow it to happen after being attacked by Trayvon.
This appears to be a classic example of self defense,regardless if Zimmerman was "chasing" or "hunting" trayvon down.
The wirey kid surely could have kept hidden or at the very least out run the floppy Zimmerman.

Watch at YouTube

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04-01-2012 06:48 PM  7 years ago
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Zimmermans Neighbor/Eye Witness speaks out!
Again, the paramedic report which I’ve cited does contain information that specific injuries were treated at the scene prior to transport. The next day (when injuries are more likely to be pronouced) a neighbor confirms that he saw the injuries on George’s face.

“TAMPA – One of George Zimmerman’s neighbors is speaking out, saying looks can be deceiving.

Despite booking video from the Sanford Police Department that many say shows George Zimmerman largely unscathed from his encounter with Trayvon Martin, the neighbor said he saw Zimmerman with obvious injuries.

The neighbor is talking for the first time about what he saw on George Zimmerman’s face less than 24-hours after Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon Martin.

“I saw George. He was banged up. His head had two big bandages, that weren’t flat, had a bump on them,” the neighbor, who did not want to be identified, said.

He described where the injuries were.

“I seen him have a big bandage on his nose and his nose swollen. On the side, where his eyes were at, it was swollen,” he said.

He points out exactly where on a picture.

“I seen the bandage right here, and this side of his nose and this side of his nose was swollen.

The surveillance video was released by Sanford police of Zimmerman when he was brought in for questioning after the shooting. Bruises and bandages aren’t visible, but you can see an officer looking at the back of his head.

“Once you get into a fight you don’t show bruises that day, it shows the next day,” he said.”

George Zimmerman’s attorneys have pictures of the injuries the day after and will submit them in his defense.
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04-01-2012 10:25 PM  7 years ago
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04-01-2012 10:56 PM  7 years ago
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In an interview two weeks after the incident, Lee said witness statements and physical evidence backed up Zimmerman’s version of events. He suggested that based on the timing of the call, he believed that Trayvon went out of his way to approach the person tailing him and mouth off.

“If Trayvon has made it that far, and Zimmerman is getting out of his truck, why doesn’t Trayvon keep walking?” Lee said. “He’s 70 yards from his house. I think based on the timing of the call and Zimmerman losing sight of him, that he had made it to that ‘T’ [at the end of the path] and was starting to walk towards his house.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/...l#storylink=cpy
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04-02-2012 12:38 AM  7 years ago
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I'd put my money on the kid mouthing off after being followed. Hell I bet he even pushed him...probably trying to act like the bad a$$ he though he was.

Unfortunately he kicked the killer bee hive and got stung.

I think the only thing we learned from this if we focus on just the incident is 2 people were in the right place at the wrong time. They were both in their home communities...

Hopefully this gets sorted out soon.

I wonder if they may amend "stand your ground" to only be applicable to a natural disaster situation.

All I know is I wish this guy was carrying one of those fancy stun guns instead...

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04-02-2012 01:17 AM  7 years ago
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It can be either stand your ground or self defense and in fear for his life.Either one would get him off the hook.
It is very unlikely that he called 911 planning to shoot the suspicious kid with the hoodie.
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04-02-2012 02:11 AM  7 years ago
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I'm curious as to why he called 911 to begin with unless the kid was trying to break into a house or something.
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04-02-2012 02:19 AM  7 years ago
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Yahoo put this article out:

Trayvon Martin case exposes worst in media

The article isn't worth reading but the comments are and here's a few:

Now even the media is calling itself sleezy. The good news is that we've ALWAYS known this.

Professional Journalism is long dead, gone the way of honest politicians, now we have only talking heads and a cast of clowns.

Please. Just this case? The media feeds on sensationalism exclusively at this point, they quit reporting news a long time ago, now they manufacture and shape it.

I didn't need to read this article to know that news media is full of incompetent people.

I couldn't believe this story actually got printed. The media exposing the media? Now I'm really confused....but I hope this idea catches on. 'Truth and Accuracy in Reporting'...what a concept!!

And Yahoo! followed as well...

the media is going to end up getting more innocent people killed with it's push for ratings

Journalism with odjective in mind..........ratings! They are all corrupt!

There are a lot of low life's out there that thought it just fine for NBC to splice two parts of the tape together, never mind the facts.

This is why we need to focus on 'equal justice' for all, and not 'social justice' for a particular group or race of people...

The media lost its way as soon as broadcast company valuations started being measured based upon internet hits/eyeballs. The truth and professionalism have given way to sensationalism and a child like view of editorial responsibility. Pathetic.

Actually, we didn't need the Treyvon case to know how bad our media is....

Plus the media keeps showing 5 year old pictures of Trayvon and the same one of Zimmerman. Like yahoo does.

the media has been exposed of reporting on what sells ratings disguised as news.reporting. profiling and death occur every day in most large cities based on colors worn in some cases,and being in a neighbourhood you don't belong in, they could have new stories like this every day.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline...-210020839.html

If you look at the thumbs up and the thumbs down at the comments, you see thumbs up win by a huge, huge margin...example: 700 to 10.

People are sick of the corrupt MSM...and the MS just doesn't understand why.
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04-02-2012 02:24 AM  7 years ago
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I'm curious as to why he called 911 to begin with unless the kid was trying to break into a house or something.
Zimmerman had called 911 almost 50 times in the past year for situations that he felt were suspicious.Thats almost once a week.
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04-02-2012 02:30 AM  7 years ago
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Zimmerman had called 911 almost 50 times in the past year for situations that he felt were suspicious.Thats almost once a week.
It is a high crime area. People are sick of crime. Some people are concrned enough to be on the lookout for suspicious people near their homes. Zimmerman was one of those people.
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04-02-2012 02:57 AM  7 years ago
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Talking about crime.

I was at a golf course today and someones brand new Benz got broken into during the day time in the early afternoon. The car was parked with many other cars about 50-100 yards to the driving range...including my car.

No one even noticed...I was dumb founded. Oh and there was pretty constant traffic from the lot to the range and to get balls you had to go between the range and the lot...

And the worst thing is the car alarm didn't even go off...I don't understand that one at all. And no way it was a golf ball...the entire passenger window was beaten in.

And my wife always asks me why I tell her not to leave her purse in the passenger side seat....
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04-02-2012 03:01 AM  7 years ago
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MSNBC Concedes Injury To Back Of Zimmerman's Head Apparent On Police VIdeo

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...man-Head-Injury
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