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04-06-2012 04:24 AM  9 years ago
turboomni

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I understand the problem with the Extreme frame. The problem is they use a very fine machine screw thread made for a machined metal only it goes into plastic. If the part doesn't fit perfectly and you rely on the torque of the screw to bring the part home ,,the thread will loose. The torque required to safely hold the parts if they fit correctly is far less than either than a more aggressive thread made for plastic. But I believe the finer thread offers more surface area over all given the same amount of surface area available for either screw types to hold on to to do the job. But the trade off is less torque the better for the finer thread screws as they rely on more surface area compared the the more aggressive thread of the same area. They are more sensitive . Geeze I hope this makes sense.!!!Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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04-06-2012 07:10 PM  9 years ago
bigben1165

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it does make sense, i understand the difference between fine and coarse threads and i agree. you run into this problem with parts that are so damn small too. i got my 5 hyperion batteries and here is what i found.

4200 - head speed with older Eflite 200mah 25C batteries.
4350 - head speed with newer Eflite 200mah 30C batteries.
4800 - head speed with hyperion, 250mah, 25C.

is it worth it to switch all my batteries, chargers, and connectors to micro deans if i am running the stock motor? i will if i will notice a difference.
big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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04-06-2012 10:37 PM  9 years ago
turboomni

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is it worth it to switch all my batteries, chargers, and connectors to micro deans if i am running the stock motor? i will if i will notice a difference.
I would like to know the answer myself because if there is an improvement with the stock brushed motors then BL motors would also benefit.
But unless I heard results from a real reliable source Like Jollyllama [he seems to know his stuff] I wouldn't bother. That would be alot of work!
You liking the Hyperions Ben?
I find these cells dish out the power at a much more constant rate over time than the E-flite and Nano tecks
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04-06-2012 10:51 PM  9 years ago
turboomni

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I just got my Extreme frame landing gear boom supports from Club heli.
I also ordered the extra boom supports and hardware for an extra 3 bucks,,but when I recieved the order they said they were out of stock but sent me another complete landing gear boom kit for the same price! 3 bucks! It was only 8 bucks compared to MH 's 30 bucks. I have been worried about the way the tail boom is held on [not to beefy'] but I haven't crashed yet. This boom mount/landinggear assembly should help support the boom I would imagine as it is designed for the Extreme frame. I may instal it tonight .
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04-07-2012 03:35 AM  9 years ago
bigben1165

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i do like the hyperions, but i actually think the nanotechs are more powerful. but im hoping that the hyperions will last a lot longer. my nanos only lasted about 50 flights. take a pic with the canopy off when you get the heli together will you? i think a bl setup warrants upgrading to deans. i read about the difference in resistance between the two is pretty significant.big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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04-07-2012 04:42 AM  9 years ago
turboomni

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i do like the hyperions, but i actually think the nanotechs are more powerful. but im hoping that the hyperions will last a lot longer. my nanos only lasted about 50 flights.
Yes the nano's and the E-flite's even puked their voltage out at the beginning at a massive rate then soon declined. My nano's also are done I think,,but I have had the Hyperions far longer and they are all fine [eight of them ] but one Hyperion lipo is suspect .
I find the Hyperions more even in their power output even though the others put out a higher headspeed at the beginning.
Also let them do a few cycles and see what they do.
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04-07-2012 06:26 AM  9 years ago
dansvt

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Has anybody tried the ThunderPower batteries?
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04-07-2012 06:28 AM  9 years ago
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If i upgrade to brushless I always run high grade 22ga wire to the board or esc however I decide to do it and micro deans. You will see improvement! I get the 22ga wire from progressive rc. Good stuff. I have yet to find a good deal on genuine deans.topcopter productions
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04-07-2012 12:01 PM  9 years ago
bigben1165

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what wiring do you change out? tail motor? battery wires? deans make that big of a difference? i thought they might. thanks for ur input bro.big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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04-07-2012 12:17 PM  9 years ago
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How are you changing the batt end itself? Curious on this part.....Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
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04-07-2012 11:02 PM  9 years ago
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most of the time I do it on Hyperion 550's which have a wire lead coming off the battery. It can be done on stock batteries or Hyperion 250's and such also but it is a pain in the butt. I have done it but one time I liked to scared myself to death not paying attention and let the two wires touch. not a good idea. If I was gonna do it with a 250mah I would use the spiders since they have a lead like the 550's.

As for the tail it does seem to help to use an upgraded FET and higher ga. wires. Either tin your plugs or solder directly to the board. I always use an insulated wire so I don't have to worry about them shorting out.

I can't remember the exacts but I think the stock connector is rated a 2amp and deans are rated at 10a. jst is like 3 or 5 I don't remember.

I change out any power wires. Like deans to the board or deans to the esc. then esc to board or board to esc. On brushless I prefer to go straight from battery to esc. Then esc to board. That way there isn't an extra bottleneck between the battery and the motor.

Hope this helps.
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04-08-2012 03:12 AM  9 years ago
turboomni

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Interesting stuff Jolly,,it maybe my next project. I found two Hyperions [250 mah] that seemed down on power . I then had a few that have good power. All four were parallel charged together at 1C. I solated the weaker lipo's and charged them again ,,just the two of them at a very slow charge maybe 1/2 C. It took awhile but when I flew them they both showed a remarkable improvement in power. One was back to normal and the other was only alittle bit off.. Since I parallel charge 6 lipo's at a time I may charge them below 1C from now on.Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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04-08-2012 03:57 AM  9 years ago
bigben1165

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i always charge at 1C. guess im never in a hurry. id like to solder right to the board butt i dont think i have the balls to do it.

i have a MH frame brand new that im not gonna use, someone can PM me if ur interested.
big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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04-09-2012 03:24 AM  9 years ago
turboomni

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Why you want to sel the MH frame Ben? How much are they new and what you want for it?Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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04-09-2012 07:48 AM  9 years ago
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check this guy out for mcpx upgrades. I personally know him. Awesome guy.

http://astroid-designs.myshopify.com/
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04-09-2012 11:25 PM  9 years ago
DougsRC

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check this guy out for mcpx upgrades
Just ordered from astroid--got the Oversky 10 amp esc w/ built in converter--

C05 motor with 8 tooth pinion, hoping to get a little less bogging than stock without insane head speed. 35 for the esc and 25 for the motor, seemed like a good deal.
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04-10-2012 01:27 AM  9 years ago
turboomni

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I run the same motor but with a 7 amp esc. I use the 8T pinion also. I like it alot.Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them
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04-10-2012 02:43 AM  9 years ago
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i run all stock gear so i really dont need an upgraded frame. plus i like the support it gives the motor.big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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04-10-2012 02:52 AM  9 years ago
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I always liked the stock frame also. Just get some flex out of the rear when you get into bigger tail motors. O and I like the bling factor. LOLtopcopter productions
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04-10-2012 09:17 AM  9 years ago
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i can not disagree with that!big ben - e550 fbl - DX6
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