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03-12-2012 04:40 AM  6 years agoPost 1
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Déjà Vu: Obama's Military Actions in Syria May Be Impeachable

Written by Raven Clabough Friday, 09 March 2012

On Wednesday, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman General Martin Dempsey told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Obama administration would seek “international permission” before engaging in war in Syria. Besides the possibility that it is merely a ruse — as there is growing evidence that the United States may already be covertly involved in Syria’s war — for the United States to seek permission from other nations to go to war is unconstitutional. For that reason, Representative Walter Jones (R-N.C., left) has just introduced House Concurrent Resolution 107, calling for the impeachment of the President if he declares war without congressional approval.

Jones's resolution, which calls upon the U.S. House — with the Senate concurring — to prevent President Obama from starting yet another war without Congress declaring war. HCR 107 states:

Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

Whereas the cornerstone of the Republic is honoring Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of Congress that, except in response to an actual or imminent attack against the territory of the United States, the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress violates Congress’s exclusive power to declare war under article I, section 8, clause 11 of the Constitution and therefore constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution.

The Obama administration has openly rejected the constitutional requirement of seeking congressional approval for U.S. military engagement.

"Our goal would be to seek international permission and we would come to the Congress and inform you and determine how best to approach this," Panetta replied. "Whether or not we would want to get permission from the Congress, I think those are issues I think we would have to discuss as we decide what to do here."

The Obama administration has previously violated the Constitution in electing to involve the United States in an attack on Libya without congressional consent, prompting some members of the U.S. House to issue a resolution demanding that the President explain his reasons for such a decision. The resolution was ignored.

The Ohio Democrat told Raw Story, “President Obama moved forward [militarily against Libya] without Congress approving. He didn’t have congressional authorization, he has gone against the Constitution, and that’s got to be said.”

Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) declared at the time that President Obama’s approval of air strikes against Libya was officially an “impeachable offense.”

Kucinich has been relatively consistent on the issue of unconstitutional wars, as he indicated his desire to impeach President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for similar actions in leading the United States into war against Iraq.

Ironically, in 2007 Obama adhered to a philosophy similar to that of Kucinich, when as a Senator he declared, “The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

Since taking office, however, President Obama’s views of the so-called War on Terror seem to have changed dramatically. Yahoo's Associated Content observed:

Barack Obama has been obliged to renege on a number of his campaign promises surrounding the War on Terror. Besides keeping the prison at Guantanamo open, he has not made a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq, has actually increased troop levels in Afghanistan, and has stepped up drone strikes in the Waziristan region of Pakistan. The joke is that Obama has killed more terrorists in the two years of his presidency than George W. Bush did in all eight years of his.

In fact, critics note that President Obama has exhibited all the qualities worthy of a neoconservative’s praise. Former Vice President Dick Cheney has hailed many of Obama’s hawkish decisions, explaining, "I think he's learned that what we did was far more appropriate than he ever gave us credit for while he was a candidate. So I think he's learned from experience.”

The discussion of a possible Obama impeachment was revisited following the targeted killing of American-born al-Qaeda leader Anwar al-Awlaki last September, with no charges being brought. Texas Congressman and GOP presidential contender Ron Paul has observed that because of the President’s “flouting” of the law in the murder of al-Awlaki, impeachment is possible.

Ben Johnson of White House Watch wrote of the assassination of al-Awlaki:

Although federal agents have sought al-Awlaki since the Clinton administration, and the Authorization for the Use of Force passed following 9/11 allows the president to kill anyone he “determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11,” al-Awlaki’s birth in the United States has many debating the proper interplay between national security and civil liberties.

According to Rep. Paul, the assassination of an American citizen, regardless of the reason, "continues" and "accelerates" the "slip toward tyranny.” He added, "I put responsibility on the president because this is obviously a step in the wrong direction. We have just totally disrespected the Constitution.”

Paul warned attendees at a town hall meeting in Manchester, New Hampshire, that permitting targeted killings of American citizens without proper due process could set a dangerous precedent:

Al-Awlaki was born here. He is an American citizen. He has never been tried or charged for any crimes. If the American people accept this blindly and casually that we now have an accepted practice of the president assassinating who he thinks are bad guys I think it’s sad. What would the people have said about Timothy McVeigh? We didn’t assassinate him. We were pretty certain that he had done it. And they put him through the courts and they executed him.

Similarly, blogontherun.com wrote, “When the president of the United States can singlehandedly order the assassination of a U.S. citizen without charge or trial, we’re not just on the slippery slope toward dictatorship, we’re in free fall.”

Paul added that virtually every U.S. President during his own terms in Congress had committed impeachable offenses. “I just said almost every President I’ve known I’d probably have to vote for impeachment, because there’s very little respect for the Constitution, and certainly there’s no respect for the Constitution [if they’re] assassinating American citizens.”

Ironically, Panetta callled upon the Constitution in his defene of the President’s decision to seek international approval for military intervention in Syria. "When it comes to the national defense of this country, the President of the United States has the authority under the Constitution to act to defend this country and we will,” he declared.

He did not explain how U.S. military intervention in the Mideast country of Syria is acting in defense of the United States or where in the constitution authorization for such executive branch action is found.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-be-impeachable

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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03-12-2012 04:43 AM  6 years agoPost 2
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WE seen the same thing happen with libya he still standing he not impeach yet. This war is not like iraq and afghanistant,
where you have to ask congress for use of force.
it is going to be the same argument all over again.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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03-12-2012 05:36 AM  6 years agoPost 3
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And why don't they impeach him for all of the other unconstitutional acts he has performed?

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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03-12-2012 05:53 AM  6 years agoPost 4
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I was wondering if one of you guys was ever going to post this Its old news but has been blocked out by main stream media.
Look at this vid. And then look again and again or what ever it takes to grasp whats going on here. Its way more deep than the prez. The part I fear is, if Obama is not impeached, this country is done for. Its all right there in your face now. No tin hat needed.

Watch at YouTube

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03-12-2012 05:57 AM  6 years agoPost 5
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Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) declared at the time that President Obama’s approval of air strikes against Libya was officially an “impeachable offense.”
This is the reason he lost his seat.

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03-12-2012 06:22 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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This is serious business>>>
because on one hand we have the fed trying to save the (petro) dollar but then there is that old paper called the Constitution. If the oil producing states start to trade with gold or other money's, the monopoly will be broken.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensm...es.html?showall

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03-12-2012 07:21 AM  6 years agoPost 7
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The part I fear is, if Obama is not impeached, this country is done for. Its all right there in your face now. No tin hat needed.
You could be right if the Obummer has a chance to be re elected.

Once ObummerCare gets through the Supreme Court and is ruled unconstitutional, his chances of re election drop very dramatically. That is, IF its ruled unconstitutional.

The Democritters have one heck of a lot of money to spend on this campaign. And, its going to be the dirtiest, nastiest, and most corrupt election this country has ever seen in its entire history.

The question we are going to get answered November this year is this:

Is there enough old time Americans that rely on individual freedom, individual responsibility, liberty, and belief in the Constitution and the rule of it law?

Or, are we going to be outnumbered by pollyanna's, give me entitlement weenies, followers of elites, welfare cases, food stamp recipients, etc, etc, etc, etc.

If constitutional Americans are outnumbered by the above, we will no longer be a republic. The Obummer will finish America off and we will be something else. Possibly dead after another 5 years. If not dead, then certainly only responsible to the Washignton DC elites. They will be fine. We will not be fine. We will all be subject to hyper taxation and no longer the rule of law. But, rather the rule of Washington DC. They have the mass media, the big labor unions, our universities, and an uneducated entitlement society on their side.

You cannot argue with fanaticism. You cannot reason with the unreasonable. Thats what we are up against. Those people must be simply defeated. You had better vote. Thats all the power we have left.

The question WILL be answered this coming November.

If the American people choose to live under despotism, then we will. The Obummer will make it so.

des'pot'ism (dsp-tzm)
n.
1. Rule by or as if by a despot; absolute power or authority.
2. The actions of a despot; tyranny.
3.
a. A government or political system in which the ruler exercises absolute power: "Kerensky has a place in history, of a brief interlude between despotisms" (William Safire).
b. A state so ruled.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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03-12-2012 03:49 PM  6 years agoPost 8
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Impeached my a**.In your words Dennis"Never Happen"

Team- unbiased opinion.K.I.S.S principle upheld here

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