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03-11-2012 01:46 PM  6 years agoPost 1
strat1960s

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Movers dropped off the last of our three household goods shipments Friday. In it were my TX, Trex 450 and 600E, Century parts and supplies and my heli tools.

As you may recall, I had issues with my clutch cracking. I pulled the motor late Friday night and replaced the clutch Saturday afternoon. Now I am waiting for replacement screws to put it all back together. I could be back up and flying by the end of next weekend.

I have seen several post discussing the quality of the screws/nuts and bolts and tools. I have used Snap-On, Craftsman, JR and Heliproz allen wrenches and I still manage to strip the heads of the screws. I've read folks claim the screws are of poor quality and I've read folks say the tools are of poor quality. I'm still trying to figure out a solution to keep from stripping out the screw heads. One thing I do that helps a little is that I file the tip of the allen wrench to ensure it is flat and the edges are not rounded. It seems wasteful that I have to replace a screw each time I remove it from the heli.

Ted

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03-11-2012 04:13 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Pistol Pete

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Button or Cap?

They are both made from the same material.

Button is less weight and looks nicer...much nicer but are more prone to stripping. I look at them as having their place but not for that location that gets taken down apart often.

Caps are totally opposite. Larger head equals more material for the tool to grip thus making it less prone to stripping.

Worn tools add to the aggravation. Filing-grinding down tool is the norm.

Overusing loctite is another culprit. I can distribute one "drop" of the blue stuff to about three to four screws. It just wicks.

I avoid ball end allen for torquing on or off. They are great for starting the off angle ones. Like the screws that attach the cooling shroud mount plate to the box frame support and to which I highly recommend using washers there.

I'd rather replace a screw for "pennies" than deal with a dremel and the time to remove a stripped one. You can purchase them in bulk.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#metric-soc...-screws/=gm7sfd

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03-11-2012 10:48 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Ray Fernandez

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I'm still trying to figure out a solution to keep from stripping out the screw heads
I agree with Pete about the over usage of Loctite on the screws. One of my solutions in keeping from stripping the screw heads is "not" to over tighten them. I've seen (and have also done it myself) that when torquing down a bolt, it should not be be done with alot of force. Some of us (myself included) have "Jeep" hands and tend to over torque the bolts.

I don't want to spend more than needed for bolts.

Ray Fernandez - GUAM

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03-12-2012 12:53 AM  6 years agoPost 4
James Kovach

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Get one of these

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...4&storeId=10051

and a set of metric drivers for it. Not only will you stop stripping screws, but you will save wear and tear on your wrists

*disclaimer: These are my opinions. Agree or disagree, Your Call :)
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03-12-2012 12:54 AM  6 years agoPost 5
strat1960s

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San Antonio Texas

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I've only had a few bolts back out on me. I guess I have Ford hands. I'll try to go easy on the loc-tite and torque on these next bolts. It's kind of hard for me because in the back of my mind I'm worried about bolts working loose.

I hovered my rex 450 this afternoon. It was fun. It's been since November since I've flown.

Ted

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03-12-2012 12:59 AM  6 years agoPost 6
VKGT

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Sanford, NC

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All of your helis in tact?

I'm wondering if I should allow TMO to take mine and my airplanes or not.

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03-12-2012 02:50 AM  6 years agoPost 7
strat1960s

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Everything made the trip in one peice. I spent most of today recharging my packs. Where you heading will determine how long it takes. The movers picked up my stuff on 5 Dec and I just got it this last Friday. That should give you an idea of how long it takes. Do you have hard cases for your planes and helis? I had cases for my 600E and 450. The movers made a case for my Radikal G20. All helis are in tack.

Sparx,
Any particular reason for that brand our would any other brand do. I was thinking of setting the torque on drill to the lowest level and working my way up to a setting that is tight, but doesn't strip my screws. What do you think?

Ted

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03-12-2012 02:08 PM  6 years agoPost 8
CX1

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there is less chance of stripping doing it by hand than with a machine
if you used loctite, heat it up before trying to remove it.
other than making sure your drivers are not rounded, you may want to try a T driver, the long shaft will flex when you torque down those screws, giving you an idea of when to stop tightening.

" Team Protoast "

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03-12-2012 02:30 PM  6 years agoPost 9
Pistol Pete

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wear and tear on the wrist...

Use it or loose it.

Whats the mA rating on those cells there James??

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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03-12-2012 04:18 PM  6 years agoPost 10
James Kovach

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canton, oh - US

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there is less chance of stripping doing it by hand than with a machine
That is only true if you choose the wrong tool for the job and/or do not know how to use the tool in the proper manner.

Personally, I have not stripped a screw since acquiring the above mentioned tool.
Whats the mA rating on those cells there James??
Not sure.... I'll have to look

Ted, no reason for it other than it was highly recommended. As for others, I wouldn't use an 18v Dealt :-)

*disclaimer: These are my opinions. Agree or disagree, Your Call :)
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03-16-2012 02:52 AM  6 years agoPost 11
strat1960s

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Fired up and ran a 1/2 tank of fuel through the G20 today. Tomorrow, I hope to bring it into a hover.

Ted

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03-16-2012 02:05 PM  6 years agoPost 12
bobmoser

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Edmond, OK

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Good to be back!
Welcome back Ted! I just got back myself. 7 month is a long time in the RC Heli world. I feel like I am still trying to catch up. I had all kinds of improvements/upgrades waiting for me when I got home.

Bob

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03-16-2012 09:01 PM  6 years agoPost 13
strat1960s

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I know what your saying. It'd been since last Nov since I've flown. I've installed my upgrades that I had on-hand. I'm trying to remember if there were things needed/wantonly to do to my Heli. I recall a few issues with my tail drifting. Not sure if it is related to my cracking my clutch twice. Wandering if the tail drift is related to engine speed or gyro. Now comes the fun.

I always have fun. Some times are more fun than others.

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03-16-2012 09:04 PM  6 years agoPost 14
VKGT

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Do you have hard cases for your planes and helis? I had cases for my 600E and 450. The movers made a case for my Radikal G20. All helis are in tack.
I don't have hard cases for them. I'm considering transporting them myself in the back of my truck but haven't made a firm decision yet. Will keep my 700 and 500 with me, as well as my 40% airplane so that I can still have options to fly during the PCS. I'm taking some leave so not worried about how long it takes to get there, I'm shipping my HHG a little early.

I'm not as concerned about the helis as I am the planes.. Big planes are still fragile and I don't know if I trust the movers.

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03-17-2012 04:20 AM  6 years agoPost 15
RM3

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Killeen, Texas - USA

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Welcome home TED!
I myself have yet to have or hear any of my buddies claim "supreme" care to HHGs by moving contractors. But at least you got ALL your stuff. some guys never see that one box or crate after a move...I'm happy that I'm finnaly done with all that. I just wish the weather would calm a bit to got fly.

showing a preference will only get you into trouble, 90% of everything is crap...

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03-18-2012 03:47 PM  6 years agoPost 16
strat1960s

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I had one known fatality in my HHG shipment. The video chip in my desktop computer took a dump enroute. Hmmm? Not sure how that can happen when not plugged in. No worries. Poop Happens.

So I've replaced my clutch and ran 1/2 a tank of gas through the heli to give it a bit of a "shake-down" before I actually lift off. The plan was to fly this weekend and have my wife or daughter run the optical tach for me so I can nail down my head speed and increase it or leave it alone as needed. Rain, Rain, go away!
Maybe I'll get to that next weekend.
Thank you guys.

Ted

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