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03-10-2012 06:43 AM  6 years agoPost 41
OICU812

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Jan still makes them "TDR" literally in his backyard yes.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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03-10-2012 06:50 AM  6 years agoPost 42
Dood

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You're correct. It's a French word. The term boutique does not need to apply to a shop, per se. In the context of Radio Controlled helicopters, the term "boutique" applies to the manufacturing methods used. See BOUTIQUE MANUFACTURING

Some Boutique helicopter outfitters to name a few:
Henseleit, Bergen, CarbonXtreme (pre-Aurora), and any number of those manufacturers who offer frame conversion kits and what not.
Boutique outfitters cater to very small, niche markets. And by small, niche markets I mean relative to the mainstream market.

The term "boutique" does NOT IN ANY WAY imply something is high-end or of top-performance.

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03-10-2012 07:03 AM  6 years agoPost 43
Dood

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This is not Boutique!

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03-10-2012 07:17 AM  6 years agoPost 44
rexxigpilot

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The term "boutique" does NOT IN ANY WAY imply something is high-end or of top-performance.
That is correct. Small, niche market is key to being boutique, as if it was produced from a local mom and pop shop. Once something is made by a corporation in a factory, it is no longer boutique, unless the intended market is very small or niche. I believe the Goblin could fit this definition. It really depends on how many are made/sold.

Even then, this would make the Goblin more of a limited edition versus boutique heli. Although the design is unique, its market is the relatively large general RC heli enthusiast.

And that is why they are "Selling like hotcakes."

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03-11-2012 06:42 AM  6 years agoPost 45
Daved Gutierrez

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boutique not boutique,

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03-11-2012 07:36 AM  6 years agoPost 46
TomC

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And the Bouquet smells a little fishy as well (esp. with wd40), lol!

Cheers,
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03-11-2012 11:52 AM  6 years agoPost 47
RappyTappy

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OMG at those factory pictures. The Goblin was the star of the show at the Vegas fun fly. When I was there Bert was flying the Goblin and people were being yelled to stop crowding around the infield and then I looked down the flight line at the lonely Xxtreme trying to fly around, I think it needs to go on a diet cause it really let itself go, lol.

The high speed passes the Goblin does sounds just like the TDR/Diablo/Banshee models because of the belt drive and multi stage transmission. In other words, it completely sick and gets your attention. The other thing is that boom that blends into the canopy is beautiful in the air, even more so in person than in the vids. It really is unique and the best part is SAB has been able to make it affordable. I mean, the new Raptor 90 and Whiplash cost more than the Goblin.

The flight characteristics are phenomenal because of that tight drivetrain/control system layout which I think it truly inspired. Its flight characteristics are fast, snappy, and locked in. There is good reason these models are flying off the shelves as they are worth every penny.

I did hear some people talking about the finish on the boom and stuff, but IMO at the price point they are offering the Goblin for it is not a deal breaker for me.

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03-11-2012 04:17 PM  6 years agoPost 48
rexxigpilot

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look at the picture below to see the low quality of some booms. This one is from rcflyerheli's kit posted at http://www.goblin-helicopter.com/fo...le-boom-quality .

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03-11-2012 07:22 PM  6 years agoPost 49
KDFI

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Having a boom show up like that would be disapointing added to the fact some of these kits are missing parts as well. However, I can deal with missing parts, but for SAB not to have inventory for prompt replacement doesn't sit well. I don't think the price on the kit reflects QC's inability to properly inspect the product. Even if the kit was $500.00, QC shouldn't let booms, etc with defects pass. This is where ample inventory comes in. Missed QC'd booms and other items could be replaced in a timely matter.

With this said, I hope the future batches have these issues worked out. It's really nice looking and looks well designed, I wouldn't mind having one.

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03-11-2012 07:30 PM  6 years agoPost 50
whiskey

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Those booms are made by hand in a mold
It's never going to look like a machine made carbon tail boom. I think people are expecting too much for $850! I bet they lose money on the booms as is.

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03-12-2012 02:15 AM  6 years agoPost 51
rexxigpilot

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Those booms are made by hand in a mold

It's never going to look like a machine made carbon tail boom.
whiskey, that's simple not true. Back in the 80's my brother did the FRP and CF layup work for Bob Violet Models in Winter Springs, Florida near Orlando. They make some of the finest looking RC jets by hand in a mold. CF blades are made the same way. There is no excuse for the poor craftsmanship displayed in the Goblin booms, at any price point.

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03-12-2012 02:47 AM  6 years agoPost 52
whiskey

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Ok I Stand corrected. Obviously it's possible to do a better job than they did.
A lot of exotic car, aerospace etc parts are made close to perfect by hand in molds. I should have said for the $70 retail price point I would be surprised if they came out the way some people expect them to. I for one am happy with the quality of my boom.

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03-13-2012 08:58 AM  6 years agoPost 53
RappyTappy

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Damn, yea the Goblin booms are terrible......

Bob Violet Models in Winter Springs, Florida near Orlando. They make some of the finest looking RC jets by hand in a mold.
Yea, and the price point sure ain't $70 a wing or fuselage.

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03-13-2012 11:56 AM  6 years agoPost 54
rexxigpilot

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Rappy, I see you got a good one, or did you go and have it clear-coated?

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03-13-2012 12:18 PM  6 years agoPost 55
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Not for nothing...

but I wouldn't give up my TDR for 3 of those things. Neat looking, unique design. But I'm not replacing my Henseleit ThreeDeeRigid for a green lizard.

Now, with that said, if all pans out well this year with it I might look at one for kicks. But I'm just saying, nothing is coming off of my TDR to get a Goblin in the air. There are zero comparisons between the two really. Nothing about these two birds are similar beyond the concept of dual stage gearing. And that's not a new concept by decades.

Unique, you bet. Slick, you bet. Affordable, seems so. Affordability, we have no clue yet. The next few months will definitely tell that story though.

But get real, boutique it will never be. I don't know the exact list of what birds would be considered boutique but I can say for certain that SAB doesn't have a dog in that hunt.

Again, just for clarity...

"I wouldn't give up my TDR for 3 of those things."

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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03-13-2012 01:30 PM  6 years agoPost 56
whiskey

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Who said anything about giving up a TDR?
Just scoot it over and make room for another! I did.

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03-13-2012 01:40 PM  6 years agoPost 57
RCSavager

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That very well could happen maybe as a winter project. This winter I've been too busy flying to look at new birds. This one is an attention getter at 2200rpm but I'm waiting to see how it holds up to that kind of abuse. Only time can tell that story but if it works out it definitely will be around a while. Interesting servo layout I'm not quite fond of but I get why it's done that way too. They definitely stuffed a lot of strength in a small package in that main block.

Honestly, I wish it the best. I wouldn't mind having one some day. But it goes on the shelf BELOW the TDR, not next to it.

Once you try steak, is hard to go back to hotdogs.

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03-13-2012 02:07 PM  6 years agoPost 58
tomturbulence

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until you have built and flown a turbulence d3 EX you dont understand quality or what a boutique heli really is.

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03-13-2012 02:15 PM  6 years agoPost 59
Dood

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Hirobo isn't boutique. Quality, yes. Boutique, no.

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03-13-2012 02:39 PM  6 years agoPost 60
Pistol Pete

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The term "boutique" does NOT IN ANY WAY imply something is high-end or of top-performance.
More like over priced metal and plastics.

I do like the Goblins "unique" looks...staying on topic.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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