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03-09-2012 05:23 PM  6 years agoPost 21
USNAviationjay

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Whiplash? what about it.. just another MA Nitro heli.. very nice but hardly exotic. see them quite a bit down here at funflys.

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03-09-2012 05:35 PM  6 years agoPost 22
VKGT

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I guess it's just a matter of what people consider to be exotic. Maybe the MA helis are more exotic in Europe? I get the impression that people are saying exotic helis are those that are mainly distributed overseas.

When I think boutique, I think Heinseleit. There's a lot of money lost in the shipping and exchange rates. Sure, it's an amazing heli, I'll call it exotic. I'm not feeling that way about the Goblin though

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03-09-2012 05:48 PM  6 years agoPost 23
rexxigpilot

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Since the word boutique typically means specialized, elite and/or unique and often produced in relatively small numbers, I would say the Goblin is boutique. Align and Thunder Tiger are definitely not boutique. Rave, Synergy, MA, Compass, Gaui and maybe even Hirobo could be considered boutique by some due to their relatively small numbers produced. However, they are not unique enough IMO, so I don't consider them boutique. Henseleit TDR and Shape are boutique. Logos have become very popular, so they are on the border of being boutique or not. However, they are produced in a small factory and are still somewhat unique in design. This would technically make them boutique as well.

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03-09-2012 05:49 PM  6 years agoPost 24
USNAviationjay

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Dunno why.. the goblin is cut from the same mold as the TDR.. both very radical departures from what is mainstream design.. both European and both designed for nothing but pure speed and agility.

I see alot of the TDRs influence when I look at the Goblin..

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03-09-2012 05:53 PM  6 years agoPost 25
mrloudly

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So why is Snap-On three times the price of Teng? They've both got a professional lifetime guarantee?

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03-09-2012 05:59 PM  6 years agoPost 26
USNAviationjay

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WTF is a "teng"?

I buy Snap-on for the quality and warranty.. not to mention they come to you..

Craftsmen would have been a better comparison.

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03-09-2012 06:29 PM  6 years agoPost 27
Mike Fortin

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. very nice but hardly exotic
A model helicopter made entirely in the USA is pretty exotic in this hobby.

Have Rotors, Will Fly!

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03-09-2012 06:32 PM  6 years agoPost 28
USNAviationjay

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Ok Mike True enough +1 on that )

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03-09-2012 06:41 PM  6 years agoPost 29
OICU812

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Boutique to me means "not many of" , unique and generally hard to get. So no Goblin is not boutique at all. And it's far too early to be stating the quality and dependability is on par with other German releases unless you have your own video comparisons of true quality, have your own 1000+ flights on it to compare wear etc. Aviationjay if you make such comments in 6 months from now it would be far more believable.

Am I interested in trying one?, yes for sure but just going to wait and observe bit more..There have been many so called awesome new releases that were disappointing in the end.

Anyhow have nice day and look forward to actual flight reports from all the new builds.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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03-09-2012 07:07 PM  6 years agoPost 30
USNAviationjay

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Last I checked there was a several month backorder to get kits still
every single batch sells out in minutes,

I am an Outrage Rep therefore I will not be getting a Goblin regardless..
We are expected to fly the Fusion 90 when it comes out if we are going to fly an E90. and I will have one.

To me Boutique is a status symbol heli.. of different design and rare.
not to mention elevated price.

The Goblin fits all those bills. You will not just go down to your average club and see 10 of these things around... most likely the only time most will see them is at large funflys..

that makes them exotic and boutique.

I never said anything about quality or anything else other than I wouldnt put bargain Align stuff in a build of such a heli.. that was the only thing I said that even had the world quality in it..

I said to me it fit right in there with the other Euro helis... in design and function.
which are quite different than the average RC heli design at this time.

everything about the TDR and Goblin is different compared to the masses..

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03-09-2012 07:15 PM  6 years agoPost 31
OICU812

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By that comment of them selling in minutes you'll see far more of them then you think therefore not boutique by your interpretation of it , just sayin'

Either way no biggie let's see what shakes out in a few months.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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03-09-2012 07:21 PM  6 years agoPost 32
USNAviationjay

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Our understanding from HD is the product runs are very small. when compared to what Align or Outrage would ship on a new model.

but you are right only time will tell.

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03-09-2012 07:52 PM  6 years agoPost 33
nobato1

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By the same token, a TT 720E wold be boutique. you'll see less of those than goblins.
i agree with goblins not been boutique, a mass produced kit.
is diferen, than standard, but not comparable with TDR or Shape, rare or hard to get, not when they are as common as hotcakes

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03-09-2012 08:14 PM  6 years agoPost 34
mrloudly

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"Teng" No quibble Lifetime warranty, quality professional tools 1/3rd the price of Snap-On, but who's the best?

Marketing is a very powerful tool ;-)

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03-09-2012 08:15 PM  6 years agoPost 35
mrloudly

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They're selling out over here in minutes as well! Maybe this'll all go pear shaped when we can't get bits...

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03-09-2012 08:18 PM  6 years agoPost 36
mrloudly

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http://www.tengtools.com/

There you go, working with Ford, last time I looked that was an American company ;-)

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03-09-2012 08:58 PM  6 years agoPost 37
USNAviationjay

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Not comparable to Shape or TDR?

Wow.. I beg to differ...

http://helidirect.com/sab-goblin-70...kit-p-24943.hdx

Look at the design the gears, the carbon formed boom..

This is every bit as custom and boutique as the others.. this is for sure in the same class with the Kasamas as well.

mass produced... you do realize Ferraris are mass produced... as are most "exotics"

That is not the defining factor..

and Mass for SAB is again not mass like other companies.

teng tools do not appear to be available stateside at all.

but very cool..

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03-10-2012 01:02 AM  6 years agoPost 38
Dood

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and to call the SAB anything other than a Boutique heli is flat misinformation as well..
Flat out delusional if you ask me.

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03-10-2012 02:14 AM  6 years agoPost 39
OICU812

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Flat out delusional if you ask me.
I conquer with the dude, makes no sense to me either,,, but whatever..

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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03-10-2012 06:20 AM  6 years agoPost 40
rexxigpilot

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Boutique is a French word for shop or store. That being the case, nothing can technically be truly boutique unless it was made in some mom and pop store or in someone's garage. I think Jan once made the Henseleit helis out of a home shop, maybe he still does. That would make the TDR the only boutique heli by strict definition.

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