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03-05-2012 07:39 PM  6 years agoPost 21
Eury

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I use red on everything, and I have for a long time now. It just takes a tiny bit on the bolt, and it holds very well, and comes apart just fine with my regular tools, no heat required. I think the people who are unable to disassemble stuff put together with red are drowning the bolts in it or using trash tools.

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03-05-2012 07:55 PM  6 years agoPost 22
deafheliflyer

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Red on everything for me too...

No issues taking apart either....

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!

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03-05-2012 10:52 PM  6 years agoPost 23
Dood

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Some kid with his cheap tools is going to see this thread, use way too much, try red loctite, and strip the heads off literally every screw on his helicopter.

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03-05-2012 11:19 PM  6 years agoPost 24
Eury

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So we should dumb everything down? The fact is, red works fine when used properly. If someone reads that 3 or 4 of us use red and don't read the sentence right after it and break stuff, then they get what they deserve. At least they will know that their helis won't fly apart unexpectedly.

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03-05-2012 11:22 PM  6 years agoPost 25
deafheliflyer

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My 250se is pushing 5,500 rpms, my Logo is pushing 3,000 rpms..

I would be afraid NOT to use RED. Mike Fortin gave good advice few years ago when I was a newbie, and that advice worked for me... Never had issues taking screws out, nor did I ever have issues with screws backing out either.

I agree with Eury, if you have the right tools, its not that hard to loosen up RED.

Just my .02 cents.

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03-06-2012 12:12 AM  6 years agoPost 26
Dr.Ben

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I watched this video last night. The comments suggests the blade grips seperated from the shaft, causing massive destruction to the machine.
I wouldn't be surprised. You'll note my choice of words when I said what I did earlier and the special use of tools that relatively few guys employ when building. No amount of loctite will hold a spindle in place that has not been appropriately torqued. The really worrisome thing that I have seen of the past 5 or so years with the proliferation of some real garbage Chinese models is not the spindle bolt unscrewing from the blade axle but rather the whole darn bolt pulling the threads out of the spindle because they were cut so poorly. As before, no amount of loctite will protect from that situation. Keep that in mind as you stand beside your $75 Hobbywhoever Ginsu 450 spinning carbon blades at 3500 rpm 10 feet from your face.

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03-06-2012 12:44 AM  6 years agoPost 27
Mike0251

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The secret to using red or any locktite is to use a toothpick to apply to the threads whether they are external or internal. That way you control the amount you put on. I too use red most places but it is used sparingly (toothpick) and presents no problem taking apart. The toothpick also allows you to place the locktite in internal threads so as not get it wicked in close bearing situations.

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03-06-2012 04:39 AM  6 years agoPost 28
BladeStrikes

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The way I fly,I wouldn't trust anything but red loctite...If I run out on the last bolt or 2-3,I won't fly it..

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03-06-2012 04:53 AM  6 years agoPost 29
Shawn Behrens

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Red 250 to 700 on everything even spindle bolts.

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03-06-2012 12:10 PM  6 years agoPost 30
rpat

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Here is my tip for newbies. When ever I use loctite I will have a paper towel sitting next to me. I apply some loctite on the screw and then touch the screw to the the paper tower and let the excess loctite wick off of the screw. I especially do this when there is a bearing on the screw shaft ,like spindles.

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03-06-2012 01:44 PM  6 years agoPost 31
reddragon

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The secret to using red or any locktite is to use a toothpick to apply to the threads whether they are external or internal.
Nothing will hold if the threads are not cleaned properly. Some of us forget that even after many years of being in the hobby. Clean thoroughy first then apply.

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03-08-2012 01:14 AM  6 years agoPost 32
rocket_33

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The real secret to using loctite is to clean your hardware prior to applying it. Almost all hardware comes with a slight coating of oil or some other lube to keep it from rusting. They do this because how many people would be happy to open the bag of bolts and see that they have rusted.

I take all bolts and a cloth with acetone and completely clean all the threads. If you don't think they have oil on them, try this....the cloth will turn black. Once they are completely clean then I apply a SMALL amount of loctite and yes I use the rainbow because they are designed for specific things.

As they say horses for courses

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03-08-2012 01:32 AM  6 years agoPost 33
snjbird

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I use red, on everything these days...

I mean this is not something you can Clown around with, some guys don't use any?...

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03-08-2012 02:45 AM  6 years agoPost 34
BladeStrikes

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snjbird
I mean this is not something you can Clown around with, some guys don't use any?...
I love it ..

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03-08-2012 02:49 AM  6 years agoPost 35
Jej34

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+1 Blue

I bought it as a kit, it ended up a kit!

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03-08-2012 02:55 AM  6 years agoPost 36
BobOD

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I use blue on the spindle bolts and tail grip bolts.
blue on linkage balls.
Blue on tail hub.
blue on pinions unless there aren't enough threads engaged on the set screw...then I'll use red.
If Nitro, blue on the clutch hardware.
That's it....don't use it on anything else. This requires good tools, good screws, and good threads they're going into.

The only other place I'll use red is in a hole with buggered threads or made of cheesy metal....or if the design is such that proper tightening causes binding...I'd probably re-design that though.

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03-08-2012 03:00 AM  6 years agoPost 37
Jingles

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NVM

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03-08-2012 03:10 AM  6 years agoPost 38
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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BladeStrikes
I use Red on everything (whole head,whole tail,motor mounts,bearing blocks ect..) and never had issues taking bolts and reuseing anything..
BS uses red on every thing lol and he has the nerves to talk about me lol.

guess thats why a guy who worked for 7/11 most his should not try and act like he knows about tools and screws.

and spell check is free /reusing

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03-08-2012 03:19 AM  6 years agoPost 39
BobOD

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I don't think the 243 is stronger so much as being better at bonding with some oil. It is still in the blue family...removable, rather than the red family...permanent.

It looks good to me...I plan to give it a try.

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03-08-2012 03:21 AM  6 years agoPost 40
BobOD

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C'mon, WC...how is that contributing anything here?

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