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03-02-2012 01:41 AM  9 years ago
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Robot helicopters perform James Bond theme song

Watch at YouTube

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03-02-2012 01:45 AM  9 years ago
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That shouldn't be to hard to set up... WOW!Hello, my name is Tony and I'm a heli addict...
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03-02-2012 01:52 AM  9 years ago
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How many pilots?Bill Whittaker
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03-02-2012 01:53 AM  9 years ago
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haha awesome!
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03-02-2012 01:59 AM  9 years ago
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No pilots, they are all autonomous. Check this one out.

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03-02-2012 02:30 AM  9 years ago
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How many pilots?
if you count developers as pilots, then apparently 3. these are autonomous UAVs.
if it ain't broke, break it.
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03-02-2012 03:15 PM  9 years ago
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Who you gonna believe, Me or your lying eyes? quote - Richard Pryor: RIP
Not entirely autonomous.

If you look at the second video (the swarming robots), you will see in the video an array of motion capture cameras ringing the ceiling. Each copter is being co-ordinated remotely via a centralized processor based on visual triangulation from the motion capture cameras. It's cool, no doubt, but the copters aren't co-operating they are following orders given by an unseen hand

Notice the white back drops? There for contrast. I suspect the James Bond music vid is the same. We aren't quite to the point of terminator level autonomy but if they keep adding video surveillance cameras everywhere who knows.

This message has been brought to you by the letter "S". Now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

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03-02-2012 03:45 PM  9 years ago
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i guess a line needs to be drawn in the sand at some point as to what autonomous means.

i take it to mean independent of direct human control. yes, there are visual cues, but they are for the machine--the processors, sensors, and software to interpret...not for humans. but, then humans programmed/built the processors and software to begin with. so, one could argue that they are being controlled by humans--just not at the time (which is all relative anyway) the flight takes place.

i still contend they are fully autonomous by whatever definition had previously been instilled between my ears.
if it ain't broke, break it.
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03-02-2012 04:19 PM  9 years ago
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definition of Autonomous = Self governed

To me fully autonomous means the copters could perform the same feats regardless of location.

If you took the swarm to times square would they be able to fly figures of eight in front of MTV's window? The answer is no, unless you set up the array of motion capture cameras. For instance for this swarm to breach a building with an unknown number of Al-Qadea, you'd first have to send in a Seal team with 60 cameras, have them set up the array in 2 concentric rings around that which you want to surveil, back out and then send in the swarm

I say its a neat Lab trick. The copters are parts of a system comprised mostly of a motion capture array.
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03-02-2012 04:25 PM  9 years ago
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+1 LBoogie

Had to go back and watch it. It's interesting the things we don't see depending on where our attention is.
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03-02-2012 04:42 PM  9 years ago
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I think your definition leans more toward sentient than autonomous.if it ain't broke, break it.
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03-02-2012 04:45 PM  9 years ago
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It's DARPA's/Websters definition not mine.
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03-02-2012 04:51 PM  9 years ago
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fair enough, though we are getting a bit off track. i was simply answering the question "how many pilots?" to which i replied there are only developers. no person is actively flying the aircraft. the rest is semantics.if it ain't broke, break it.
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03-02-2012 05:23 PM  9 years ago
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too much free time.

It's the Youtube modern plague...
It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.
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03-02-2012 05:32 PM  9 years ago
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you know.. bottom line is... it was not too long ago that this would have been folly.. much less in the hands of everyday people.. with technology that grows by leaps and bounds on a daily basis. When I think back at my childhood.. if you had a color tv.. WOW.. your family was the shyt! no computers, no led's, no calculators, no helis, just a cox control line airplane.. and now we have quads with gps that do about anything you want. Im amazed everyday!JR NEX E8, 12 cell
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03-02-2012 05:53 PM  9 years ago
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Autonomous may not have been the correct word. All I was meaning was that there aren't a bunch of pilots there with transmitters flying each one.
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03-02-2012 07:15 PM  9 years ago
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Autonomous or not, its cool right?!

in answer to the original question: the number of pilots would be zero.

a pilot is someone (key point) that makes and enables real time decisions affecting the operation of a craft.

"I want a star pattern instead of a square (press pf5)" is no more piloting than saying a president is an astronaut because he approved a space launch.

If you are flying on the sim, you are technically, but not actually "flying"....same goes for if you use programming to tell a machine to do something long after you made the decisions it will need to make decisions, you gave the machine the ability to make those decisions in real time (rotor corrections) without your intervention in what it takes to keep it in the air.

these are "semi-autonomous".....they are programmed how to fly, but need input from external sensors that require too much effort to be practical.

If one could map that room accurately with GPS, then this could be done autonomously, but the technology for that is James Bond fantasy right now!
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03-02-2012 09:31 PM  9 years ago
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Several folks I know (mid to upper level executives included) have seen the swarm video and didn't know what to make of it. They were under the impression the individual copters were themselves coordinating there own movements and communicating with those around them to create the geometric displays. These people believed the copters where able to plan and communicate amongst themselves to follow a predefined set of instructions i.e. group into 3 sets of 4 and fly, taking turns, through the window - "enter"

Once it was pointed out that the room they are in is as much apart of the display as the copters, there fears where put to rest.

The students who portrayed the capabilities of these machines are being dishonest by omission. In the swarm video the presenter would have you believe the copter is planning the maneuvers rather than taking orders.

I'm not really sure why I keep posting to this thread in the first place. I have no horse in this race, nothing to gain or loose. Believe what you want. Its cool no argument there. It's neat. Made me laugh out loud, loved the JB theme. But it is what it is.

I had a professor in college who received a call during desert storm from the DOD. The army were shooting our own tanks, could he do anything about it? He got this call Friday. He planned Friday evening, tested Saturday and Sunday by Monday he had a working solution in combat and no more friendly tanks destroyed.

He took a car headlamp shielded it with a filter that only allowed a certain bandwidth of light to pass, flashed this light in a predefined pattern then programmed the FLIR system on the heli's to recognize the flashing as a Green "X" so the pilots wouldn't shoot one of ours. To me that's impressive.

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03-02-2012 10:41 PM  9 years ago
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It's not dishonest by omission.
Not even close.

The point of the video is that a computer is controlling the formation.
Let's just call the quads fingers on the hand of the computer and the cameras the eyes.

The computer can't decide what formation on its own nor can it create a formation(yet)but the fact remains that there are NO active pilots involved....All software and programming.

What makes you think the guys who did this want anyone to think the quads are thinking?

They only did a really cool show with some quads and some really advanced software and programming.
I literally never use the word literally right.
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03-03-2012 09:20 PM  9 years ago
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agreed they're not being dishonest, they're typical university students...ideas ideas ideas potential

They got my attention last year with this video!,

Watch at YouTube

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