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03-02-2012 02:26 PM  9 years ago
Carey Shurley

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the helibug kit puts the fuel tank under the eltronics tray on the 600
true, its in the back on the 700 though, its just using the stock align tank
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03-02-2012 03:06 PM  9 years ago
rbort

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Tanks
the helibug kit puts the fuel tank under the eltronics tray on the 600, for that reason alone ill be using the hobb world kit if i go gas with my 600
That kit uses a unique tank that fits between the frames. I believe its only like 10oz, if you need more flight time you can add a 4oz hopper tank like Doug did here:

https://rc.runryder.com/t681330p1/

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03-02-2012 10:54 PM  9 years ago
foreignloren

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700 + TANKS
. Will I'm going with a 700 size Heli and I'm going to use the Century kit because the clutch is made for a gas motor lower RPM's. Nitro clutch are for much higher RPM engagement and have a tendency to slip and burn out quicker I heard. Is this true?
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03-03-2012 02:29 AM  9 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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This is what I put on my Raptor with the Lynx liner. They keep backordering it because they can't seem to get it centered. I have one of the (off centered ones) that I never sent back. If there are vibrations I sure can't tell it. They supposedly fixed the off centerdness.
At any rate it is holding well for me.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product...-GAS-Clutch-Set
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03-03-2012 04:29 AM  9 years ago
Evan03

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Can you get 10 minutes or better on 10oz of fuel?
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03-03-2012 04:34 AM  9 years ago
James Kovach

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Can you get 10 minutes or better on 10oz of fuel?
yes. I get 15+ min. One engine is more like 20 min. Depends on how hard you fly.
*disclaimer: These are my opinions. Agree or disagree, Your Call :)
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03-03-2012 01:47 PM  9 years ago
rbort

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Depends on your motor size...
Can you get 10 minutes or better on 10oz of fuel?
If you're using the smallest motor, g231, you can get 15 minutes plus.

If you're using the G26 motor, expect about a 5 minute drop in run time.

If you're using a 29cc motor, expect another 5 minute loss.

My G26 motors run about 20 minutes on 16oz of fuel. Muffler choice can affect mixture settings which will change the run times.

A 29cc motor will drink 10oz in about 10 minutes.

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03-03-2012 02:29 PM  9 years ago
James Kovach

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A 29cc motor will drink 10oz in about 10 minutes.
Not what I see. Still get 15 min flights.

All depends on the engine, how it is ported and how you have the engine tuned.
*disclaimer: These are my opinions. Agree or disagree, Your Call :)
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03-03-2012 11:54 PM  9 years ago
kogibankole

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ive also had bad luck with century products
ive also owned a flown a predator gasser for 2 years, and i currently own 2 helibug gassers with RC format motors. The stock engines work perfect!

the parts count on the century kit just from looking at it gives me a headache, but the main difference is that the rc uses the full circle crank, inbuilt fan, and less of a hassle.
if im not blade bogging youll find me pack puffing
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03-04-2012 01:44 AM  9 years ago
Eury

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I've been considering building a 700 conversion as well (There are some good deals to be had on 700Ns). I've pretty much decided if I do I'm going with the HWC conversion, but I'm not positive. I've currently got a Radikal G30, and it has an awesome drive train. Huge main gear and clutch system, great fan that makes it all run very cool, and it all aligns well to the point that it runs very smooth with my stock 231.

Here is what I see as advantages and disadvantages for each:

HWC Pros:
°Radikal clutch and drive train. Absolutely bulletproof.
°Radikal baseplate setup is very nice, stiff, well made, and keeps everything perfectly aligned.
°Probably going to be lighter using the PUH motor than RC since I can take off the pull starter.
°Better availability of replacement parts, and at lower prices.
°More complete kit.
°CF Frames probably lighter

HWC Cons:
°Tiny fuel tank from Radikal. I'm sorry, but the tank on the Radikal sucks. 8 minute flights on a gasser is ridiculous, and the reason my G30 is running a second fuel tank.
°PUH engine is the only choice. It'd be cool to try the RC.
°I like G10 frames better

Helibug Pros:
°Large fuel tank
°G10 frames
°RC engine choice
°Simpler design

Helibug Cons:
°One source for the kit and parts. Is he going to be around long term?
°Trex 700N clutch setup. You can use the Lynx gas clutch, but even then guys are talking about modifying liners for specific clearances etc. Sounds like a real pain, and not nearly as good as a clutch made for a gasser.
°Parts are expensive, $20 a side more for the frames, other parts are more as well.

So I dunno which way you want to go, but I'm probably going with the HWC if I end up building a 700 conversion. It seems to have less compromises built in.
Nick Crego

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03-04-2012 02:17 AM  9 years ago
foreignloren

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I did the same
I did the same thing you did, pros and con’s and thinks the century set up is the way to go for a 700. Isn’t the Radikal 30 a 700 size heli? If you have a Radikal 30 why do you want a t-rex 700 conversion.
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03-04-2012 02:22 AM  9 years ago
Eury

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Dunno, want to try it out. I really liked my 700N when I had it way back when they were first released, plus the LHS has everything for a 700N. I also like the wide selection of canopies, TT tail, and ability to easily stretch to take larger blades.

Apparently I talked myself into it. I just ordered a new 700N and the HWC conversion. Total cost ends up right around $900 for the complete airframe with FBL head. Electronics and engine will be swapped from my G30.
Nick Crego

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03-04-2012 02:38 PM  9 years ago
Doug Darby

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I flew my predator for 2 years and it never performed to my reliability expectations. But my HWC 700 has been nothing short of spectacular. Even my regular flying buddies commented on it just yesterday on how reliably it has flown every week since I got it. 112 flights since October and still flying it all week long.
The only thing I added was a Dubro Aux 4oz tank to give me 12-14 min flights with 20% reserve remaining. Cost about $6 and took an hour to install.
I think the pros and cons have been fairly described above but as I said in an earlier post, they both are Great conversations and you won't go wrong either way.
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03-04-2012 07:27 PM  9 years ago
spiderco

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I went with the HB kit mostly because of the RC format and my not so great experience with century stuff.

The HB is a very simple conversion and the customer service is excellent. My emails to HB were answered almost instantly. Also the parts lined up precisely.
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03-04-2012 09:46 PM  9 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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Yea,I have emailed Helibug 3 or 4 times. I think my longest turnaround time was 30 minutes. Which is hard to beat. And while I'm no expert,the RC motor with the huge fan already installed has to be a plus. I was almost afraid to try a gasser from lurking on here reading about all the vibration problems. But my RC motor runs smooth as can be.
Fred
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03-05-2012 02:03 AM  9 years ago
foreignloren

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What Size
Fred, what size is your Heli and what motor is on it.
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03-05-2012 02:14 AM  9 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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Fred, what size is your Heli and what motor is on it.
It's a helibug Raptor 90 with a stock Zenoah 270 RC.
Fred
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03-05-2012 11:54 AM  9 years ago
foreignloren

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Pic's
Can you post some pictures or it? I like to see it.
Loren
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03-05-2012 12:27 PM  9 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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I don't have any "up to date pics" and it's dark when I get home. But here is the thread where I put it together.
https://rc.runryder.com/t661854p1/
Fred
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