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02-27-2012 10:38 PM  9 years ago
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Rogman88

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Is it worth being "rep status?"
You are so limited in what you can post that you really can't help anyone publically. Isn't being a rep about helping folks?

Would it be better to just not advertise your "rep status" in your sig and just contribute without penalty? My buddy recently got a deal with a distributor where he had to put the distributors name in his sig and he found out real quick the rules of RR. Not to question the rules of RR as they are here for a reason. But from the reps side, it seems like it would be more beneficial to just not advertise yourself as one.
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02-27-2012 10:58 PM  9 years ago
OLROY

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that explains why there had been times I've asked a rep questions and no response
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02-27-2012 11:18 PM  9 years ago
Mark Ryder

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Reps are welcome to provide tech support here. The problem is that Reps are obligated to promote their products and influence the discussions. Left unchecked, things would devolve into an unappealing state.Mark Ryder
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02-27-2012 11:59 PM  9 years ago
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As posted above the rules arnt that bad. I got into it with mark at first then he explained to me his reason behind them which makes total sense to keep this website the way it is and not into a advertising frenzy. Which when i thought about that would really suck!Novarossi Motors U.S.A
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02-28-2012 12:21 AM  9 years ago
Mike Fortin

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As long as you have specific questions, technical questions and so on there is no issue in "reps" or "sponsored" pilots answering your questions.

In many cases it's a very fine line in how the questions can be answered even though as a "rep" your just trying to answer a question honestly, it could possibly be construed as promotion depending on who's reading it.

Quite a few guys have given up trying to walk that fine line but after you've been "pinked" a few times and "coached" by Mark, you start to get the hang of how to write the post and what words not to use.
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02-28-2012 12:38 AM  9 years ago
Heli 770

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Mark has made it easier for Reps., if they would only use Docs, News and Vids.
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02-28-2012 12:43 AM  9 years ago
GyroFreak

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Still, what is the advantage of a rep ?The case against politicians simply is that when they legislate for all men, they always omit themselves
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02-28-2012 01:09 AM  9 years ago
Mark Ryder

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Still, what is the advantage of a rep ?
Subsidize your hobby.
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02-28-2012 01:40 AM  9 years ago
fenderstrat

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helping on the forums is part of it,helping at the field is also a big part of it and is VERY rewarding as you can directly interact and see the results instantly.

One of the more difficult things is seeing "non" reps post incorrect or info that is just untrue,and sometimes you cant really respond.

If you read the rules of RR carefully you will see that you DONT have to identify yourself as a rep to be considered a "rep" "a pattern of promotion" will put you in this category. And to the OP, there are a few guys who are afilliated with companies who dont let you know in their sig.

Its a fine line,and sometimes can be frustrating but actually it keeps you out of a TON of pissing matches,and I wouldn't trade it for anything I love being a rep,the discount is nice too
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02-28-2012 01:50 AM  9 years ago
Jag72

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Rep status
I did the rep thing for a while ..it's just not worth it to me...I like being able to fly whatever I want and not having to promote or push anything

There's Something to be said for having an unbiased opinion as well
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02-28-2012 01:56 AM  9 years ago
Mike Fortin

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Mark has made it easier for Reps., if they would only use Docs, News and Vids.
Then people would have to start posting their questions in the DOCS section.

Companies don't tell their pilots to go on forums and spam, they simply ask that their pilots offer to assist people when and where needed.

If your flying a product that you strongly believe in and can help others with with their experience than it may be worth it to try and become a rep.

However, over the past years the term "rep" has been used very loosely and the entire "rep" image has become highly diluted.
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02-28-2012 02:05 AM  9 years ago
helidevil

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as a rep you have to be mindfull of what you say. for the first couple months you learn to create a filter of what you say, like in real life. after that you just get used to it and start getting in the habit of posting helpful and positive things only. you can always use the PM system to the person directly for your opinion
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02-28-2012 02:08 AM  9 years ago
fenderstrat

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I dont know how other companies are set up but Compass is really laid back.we aren't really supposed to push anything,more like just bring the heli to funflys and answer questions that people have.I find I dont have to say anything,99% of guys are really curious when they see a brand of heli they are not familiar with,or a heli they are interested in and have never seen in person.I/We dont really try to sell anything just be knowledgeable and friendly to offer technical info and or help.The hard sell puts more people off than it attracts

I have helis that are not compass and I know some of the other reps fly all kinds of stuff.Sure we're supposed to fly Compass at events but we can own anything we like.I dont fly gear because I am a rep,I BECAME a rep because I loved the product.Me personally I would not endorse a product I didn't believe in.The discount is not big enough to throw out your integrity...but the above is just my personal experience
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02-28-2012 02:13 AM  9 years ago
Noobyflyer

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Rep= Free advertising/"official" customer

No payee, no workee
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02-28-2012 02:17 AM  9 years ago
seldred

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+1 for fenderstrat. I became a rep because I loved the product. I'm no pro 3D pilot and the benefits to being sponsored are not good enough to have me fly a brand I am not fond of. As far as posting on the forums, I don't think Mark is unreasonable with his rules. If reps were out there to sell products and bash other helis, then the forums would just go to s#$%...

Just be in it because you enjoy flying, you are passionate about a product, and because you want to help other people learn more and progress in this hobby! If anything being a field rep has given me an excuse for the old lady to travel to more events
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02-28-2012 02:22 AM  9 years ago
fenderstrat

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If anything being a field rep has given me an excuse for the old lady to travel to more events
lets out a big sigh.HHHUUUUHHH...sorry dear I HAVE to go to the 3 day funfly,its part of the rep agreement..LOL..its just horrible what they make us do
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02-28-2012 02:48 AM  9 years ago
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At the end of the day, WE are ALL reps in our own way.

Wether or not you notice but some products work for you, but not your mate, its like shoes, some feet fit nike, others like adidas.

But when you find a brand of product, (or in our helis), multiple brands that work really well we help others out by steering them to a proven system that works for them.

ie: (Q) I have a problem not getting the correct geometry on my (BRAND) of heli with V-bar etc

(A) I have the same (BRAND) and use Align (whatever) with RJX (whatever) and get +/- 12 with 60% at 8 deg cyc.

as a non rep you have just made 2 sales for those companies and didnt even really notice.
A rep in my book HAS to know the product/s backwards and provide/render every assistance necessary to ANY end user having difficulty. If that rep is able to get the end user up and flying with the least amount of hassle, then that rep gets 'brownie' points and the END user will reccommend that product/s and rep to their friends, as well as they further assist other with the same problem down the line. A rep shouldnt promote a product, thats what the sponsored pilots are for.
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02-28-2012 04:44 AM  9 years ago
Ace Dude

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Would it be better to just not advertise your "rep status" in your sig and just contribute without penalty?
How would you feel about purchasing a product based on what you believed was someone's honest unbiased opinion and then later learned that they were being compensated to recommend said product?
  
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02-28-2012 05:09 AM  9 years ago
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I love being a rep. Many of the fields I visit are now populated by MA helis because many see me as a resource when needed. On funflys I attend I go in knowing I might not be able to fly to help some other people with their helis. It's a passion for the hobby and the brand that makes me do it. besides, Heliwholesaler treats us like family. Edsel Labao
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02-28-2012 12:55 PM  9 years ago
Rogman88

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Yep, as I said there are rules for a reason. It's just that you basically castrate yourself advertising your sponsors under your name. If ones true intent is to help others and promote thier products it would be better to just leave thier list of sponsors off their Sig.High Voltage just works better
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