RunRyder RC
WATCH
 8 pages [ <<    <     3      4     ( 5 )     6      7     NEXT    >> ] 13496 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopter
e-
Electric General Discussion
› best and worst heli purchase
03-09-2012 08:50 PM  6 years agoPost 81
Gregor99

rrElite Veteran

Western Wa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Thats all in the heli setup and radio setup. Expo? Longer servo arms etc.?
At 11 degrees of cyclic and 25% expo, it started to feel better. But the max flip and roll rate was still far slower than it should be. There was no more room on the head, had binding in the corners of the cyclic stick. Tried various paddles and still could not get the flip and roll rate sorted out. The fastest paddles helped but were way to pitchy in fast forward flight.

Also used expo on the swash mix which helped, but the collective was not as linear as it should be. Considered an S curve on the pitch, but decided to just live with it. Too much compensation with the radio and the model just starts to feel "odd".

I'm not an Align hater, so don't take it personally. In fact I love the way my Trex Pro flys. It was great right out of the box and even better with FBL conversion.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-09-2012 08:57 PM  6 years agoPost 82
Climax

rrVeteran

West London, United Kingdom

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best: TRex 500 (Good value, reliable, flys well)
Worst: Swift 16 (Annoying ground resonance issues)

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-17-2012 10:43 AM  6 years agoPost 83
2low

rrApprentice

elkview,WV

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best Trex700e flybarless. Worst Venom Night Ranger 3d( Absolute crap).

Got to have my cup of heli in the morning.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-17-2012 08:41 PM  6 years agoPost 84
Richardmid1

rrProfessor

Leeds, England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Thats 11 Trex 500's in the 'Best' catagory! 23.4% out of everyone who replied with best and worst.

23 Align helis in the Best catagory. Thats nearly 50%!

Thought they were rubbish?!

60% of the time, it works every time!

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-17-2012 10:53 PM  6 years agoPost 85
Gregor99

rrElite Veteran

Western Wa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Thats 11 Trex 500's in the 'Best' catagory! 23.4% out of everyone who replied with best and worst.

23 Align helis in the Best catagory. Thats nearly 50%!
Sorry, not correct. That only speaks to the sales volume of Align skewing the numbers. Like I said before I thought my T500 was my best heli purchase until I tried something else. Any polls or threads like this and you'll get an Align slant based on sales volume alone.

I think I've been the most outspoken against the T500 in this thread, and I was still fairly complimentary Far from "rubbish". Good for what it is. But also far from the "My best heli purchase".

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-17-2012 11:13 PM  6 years agoPost 86
Richardmid1

rrProfessor

Leeds, England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Sorry, not correct. That only speaks to the sales volume of Align skewing the numbers. Like I said before I thought my T500 was my best heli purchase until I tried something else. Any polls or threads like this and you'll get an Align slant based on sales volume alone.
The exact reason why you only seem to hear bad reports about them!

I was just making an observation just like the people who dismiss Align because of the things they read about them, see above!

60% of the time, it works every time!

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-18-2012 06:34 PM  6 years agoPost 87
rexxigpilot

rrProfessor

Florida

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Richardmid1, the Align criticism is based on a large sample size and a wide range of experience with various Align products. Most have owned or currently own them. The criticism is not based on what someone heard/read on a forum. Therefore, the negative Align comments tend to be fairly accurate.

Almost invariably, those who say Align is the best have never owned a quality brand heli, if any other brand at all. And if they have owned others, it was likely an Align clone of some type. Of course the original is typically better than a cheap clone!

I've had 5 Align helicopters and had quality problems with all but 1. Shafts didn't fit through the Heim Ball, tail bellcranks where the hole for the link ball was bored was too large for the ball to be installed, bearing blocks that did not hold the bearing tight, leaking fuel tanks, etc. While these are all little things, they make for an overall mediocre to low impression of Align quality.

Align is certainly not the worst heli ever made by a long shot. And they do fly reasonably well. However, it is a meritless statement to say they are the best without qualifying that statement by mentioning one of two things. One is you have not owned much else. The other is you have no idea what quality is. You will never blow Align smoke up our collective arse! Most of us don't drink Koolaid.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-18-2012 11:13 PM  6 years agoPost 88
Richardmid1

rrProfessor

Leeds, England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Ok. I have my reasons for liking Align kits and the biggest is that I have tried others including Hirobo.

Hirobo's quality is very good but they are overly complicated and the parts are very expensive.

Synergy, see the list of mods needed on the website.

Rave 450, again lots of mods needed.

60% of the time, it works every time!

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-18-2012 11:40 PM  6 years agoPost 89
Shortman

rrKey Veteran

Portland, Oregon

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

JR NEX E8 best, worst Align 450

Team JR
Team ThunderPower RC
Boca Bearings

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-19-2012 12:22 AM  6 years agoPost 90
Steff Giguere

rrProfessor

St-Eustache, Quebec, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Richardmid1, Mods needed on Synergy????

My E6 and my E7, are 100% stock (except for E7 canopy) and each have over 200 flights on them and I've only been flying them since mid October.

Team Synergy, Rail blades, Team Scorpion, V-Team

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-19-2012 01:26 AM  6 years agoPost 91
Michaelm0268

rrApprentice

Louisiana

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

+1 what mods are needed for synergy?

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-19-2012 11:31 AM  6 years agoPost 92
Richardmid1

rrProfessor

Leeds, England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

N5:

Main Shaft Pinch Collar -**CRITICAL**
Some of the Main Shaft Pinch Collars are tapped on both sides. This will cause the pinch collar to not grip the main shaft tight enough. Please check your pinch collars to make sure that the front side is a 2.5mm through hole and the back side is tapped. If not it is very easy to run a 2.5mm drill through the front side of the pinch collar.

Head Axle Sleeve
I’ve noticed quite a few people with low head speed wobbles and there are a few reasons for this. The stock dampers are very tight in the head as well as on the spindle. The main blade axle must be greased so that it can center properly during flight. I’ve found a few helis out there where the head button bolt was pressing against the main blade axle sleeve! If you are going to run the main blade axle sleeve make sure you do not over tighten the head button bolt, it will run into the sleeve if tightened too much. I personally have stopped running the sleeve because I didn’t see a difference in performance with the sleeve and it can actually hurt your performance if not centered properly. My suggestion….. ditch the sleeve!

Check to make sure your bearings are tight in the vertical fin and opposing tail plate. If the are slightly loose, use CA to secure them.

Tail output shaft should not have excessive play within the flange bearings. If you think there is too much play then I would recommend green or red loctite to secure the shaft within the bearings.

Through experimentation, I have found that slightly longer boom supports can make the tail rotor a bit less susceptible to high frequency tail vibrations. We will include these in future kits.

Auto Hub locking up – This is a known issue, some people are experiencing this and some are not. If you are experiencing this, here is a list of things to try.

Clean all of the grease out of the one way and apply a light oil
Lightly sand auto hub inner sleeve until OD is between 11.96-11.98mm
Loctite inner sleeve to main shaft (helps close the gap between OD of main shaft and ID of auto hub sleeve).

Most recently I have started tapping my inner and outer elevator arms out to 4mm. The 3mm set screws will work but as soon as a blade touches the ground, you will notice the helicopter is out of trim on the elevator.

60% of the time, it works every time!

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-23-2012 08:07 PM  6 years agoPost 93
mrloudly

rrVeteran

Naseby Northampton England

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

For me my best was the Align 700E MK 2 but I think this has just been overtaken by my new Goblin, time will tell.

Absolute worse by a looooong way Srimok 90 (Retailer gave me my money back after they couldn't sort the vibes either...)

With regards to the Aligns I'm running a 500, 550, 600 Pro 700E mk1 and mk2 and have had no quality problems. They're well flown and maintained
properly, you can't beat'em for what they cost...

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-26-2012 02:21 AM  6 years agoPost 94
WOS

rrApprentice

NW INDIANA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Worst? Kyosha Concept 30.
Best? Bergen 50
currently?
Storm 450 3G. Will let you know after I have been flying them awhile

Still learning to fly

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-26-2012 08:06 AM  6 years agoPost 95
MEDICGRAY

rrNovice

Westerly, RI

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Worst: axe cp - first heli and worst design. Don't even know if I could fly 1 now. Basically friend don't let friends fly axe cp's.

Best: tie for trex 600E FB, or the little mcpx brushless.

you can only outrun gravity or your wife for so long

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-26-2012 08:47 PM  6 years agoPost 96
Santiago P

rrProfessor

South West, Ohio

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best? Bergen 50
Never knew Bergen made a 50 !!!!

How long ago?

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-26-2012 09:19 PM  6 years agoPost 97
WOS

rrApprentice

NW INDIANA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

bergen 50
about 9 or ten years ago.
It was an awesome bird.

Still learning to fly

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
03-27-2012 04:10 PM  6 years agoPost 98
heli*xion

rrNovice

vegas baby !!!!!

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best,,,Align 550 v2....Worst,,,HK-500

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-02-2012 02:30 AM  6 years agoPost 99
flyin dan

rrApprentice

Beloit Wi.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best heli, Kavan Ranger, ALL aluminum machine with a O.S. .61FSR engine, radio Futaba 6NFK FM. I learned to hover with that setup. No gyro for the first year! Yes,I'm an OLD guy,51 Love my heli X-Cell 1001, and 1003 nitros, MA supplies parts forever, gotta love em for that! I kind of like the older stuff! Did sell all FM and PCM to get a 8GH super, and a GY 520!
Oh, you wanted to know the worst heli, I guess It is a Night Ranger 3d, same as the Walkera 22E. No easy flying for one of these machines!

AMA # 943111

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
04-02-2012 02:39 PM  6 years agoPost 100
Santiago P

rrProfessor

South West, Ohio

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Best ever, XCell 1001 which later upgraded to custom. flew for 100 gallons and kept going. 2nd best (25yrs later) although with only 20 flights is my new Minicopter Diabolo. Well engineered and a incredible performer.

Worst ever: Trex 450, a blast to fly, but something literaly failed in mid flight every other flight. The spares and upgrades were simply garbage as 2 out of 3 packaged parts were so badly made did not fit. buy cheap 3 times and you end up with a pile crap in your hands.

S

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 8 pages [ <<    <     3      4     ( 5 )     6      7     NEXT    >> ] 13496 views POST REPLY
HomeAircraftHelicopter
e-
Electric General Discussion
› best and worst heli purchase
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 39  Topic Subscribe

Wednesday, July 18 - 2:08 pm - Copyright © 2000-2018 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online