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02-05-2012 12:46 AM  6 years agoPost 1
Colin Guinn

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Some sample footage from the last 6 weeks or so.

http://vimeo.com/35672071
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02-05-2012 01:26 AM  6 years agoPost 2
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Not sure what the delay is. You still have my ship to address.

The VarioCam looks sweet.

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02-05-2012 05:49 AM  6 years agoPost 3
Wayne Mann

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Hi Colin,

Very nice work. Some of the scenery shots from Alaska are really nice.

From the three videos on Vimeo one can pick up that the camera mount has a soft mount system where it attaches to the tail booms. You mentioned that the clips were shot with the Sony FS 100 and the Red Epic. Is that mount stout enough for a Red Epic with a 3.5 pound Cinema Lens or are you using a small Nikon 20mm prime or something similar?

Have you tried booting up the mount stabilization system on a boat platform? I fly quite a bit off of boats which makes this an important issue. What is the boot up time for the system? I assume that it is using GPS for stabilization at least on roll axis as there is a compass mounted up near the mount?

In general the camera mount looks like it stabilizes very well. In several scenes the horizon is off a few degrees. Does the camera mount operator have control of the roll axis via slew control? That is an absolute must have for professional use. When the helicopter is making a banked turn the camera mount should bank with it. The DPs that I have worked for absolutely insisted on it when the shot called for the helicopter to make a banked turn. I will assume that the tilt or pitch axis is of the slew control type and not the slider or knob mess that the Ace One Mount System employs?

From what I have heard the Mount Stabilization System is not going to be offered for sale without the mount? When will the mounts be available for purchase?

Sorry for all the questions, but this will get 95% of them out of the way.

I like your work. Your flying style is very smooth and you are cranking out much better video quality than 95% of the guys doing this. But, both your turbine machine and your electric machine, with this mount, have some harmonic vibration issues as most machines do. Most of what I saw in the three videos would be almost completely fixed by a pass through Warp Stabilizer, but in the clip from the machine when its flying in the wind and you can see the green bridge in the background, that is a pretty nasty harmonic that is going through the machine just as you cut to the next clip. It is going to be quite some time before we can all throw away our post stabilization software. The helicopters that are being used by 98% of the guys are way short of the tolerances needed to be able to capture vibration free video, even with soft mount systems.

Again, nice work Colin.

Wayne Mann

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02-05-2012 12:59 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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The consumer DJI Zenmuse gimbals won't be out for another couple months is the last I heard.

Colin is working on a whole different level. Being able to post this type of footage without post processing is amazing and its only going to get better with future developments. Like the saying going around the industry.....these are "game changers".

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02-05-2012 01:12 PM  6 years agoPost 5
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From Nuremburg of the Zenmuse and new S800

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02-05-2012 01:49 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Steveact1

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Absolutely fantastic Colin! I'll be very anxious to get my hands on this mount too! Wayne, if Robert sends you one, I'll make a special trip down to play for awhile! Robert...I'd put on a maize and blue jersey if you'd send one of those my way...of course I'd never leave the house though! :-)

Steve

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02-05-2012 02:14 PM  6 years agoPost 7
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Fantastic!

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02-05-2012 02:25 PM  6 years agoPost 8
Peter E

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just found this:

http://fpv4ever.blogspot.com/2012/0...emberg-dji.html

Oops, missed your update

428CJ

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02-05-2012 02:34 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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Zenmuse is consumer version. 2 months out and pre orders in a few weeks I hear.

Colin's "I believe" is a little bit different version.

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02-05-2012 03:17 PM  6 years agoPost 10
Wayne Mann

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Hi Robert,

Actually my interest just took a nose dive. This mount, like you said is a consumer version and it is set up around small DSLRs and Handicams. The mount that Colin has on his machines is of interest to guys like Steve and myself as it can carry real cameras. what is the deal with that mount?

Wayne Mann

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02-05-2012 03:21 PM  6 years agoPost 11
Steveact1

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Hmmm...I re-read above and see the consumer comment. And I was in such a good mood too...What say you Robert?

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02-05-2012 03:32 PM  6 years agoPost 12
GyroFreak

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WOW, I am drooling.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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02-05-2012 03:41 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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Information right now is fluid.

Colin should be able to add information on that mount. I'm sure in the weeks to come (Nuremburg ends today) information will become more clear.

If I don't know for sure its unprofessional to speculate on my part.

But when I do know I will let everyone know.

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02-05-2012 06:48 PM  6 years agoPost 14
Colin Guinn

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First off, Wayne, I'd like to see that 5% you're referring to

Some details are still being worked out, but this is the most likely scenario for the stabilized gimbals. DJI will sell an incredibly stabilized gimbal for both the NEX 5 sized camera and probably the Canon 5d mkii as well, allowing people with Octo's and small electric helicopters (700-800 sized) to get footage never before attainable.

We are working in partnership with DJI to create a series of ultra premium camera gimbals for carrying cameras up to the size of an Epic with a decent lens (maybe even a compact anamorphic). These "Cineron Systems" gimbals will be made with the highest quality components, custom motors, and engineering. They will be targeted at companies shooting for the most demanding DP's and directors, and they won't be cheap...or as light as the DJI Gimbals.

As far as the vibration goes, we are addressing that issue by working with an engineering firm who has worked on several government UAV projects to design an AP specific UAV. It will be a helicopter built to military UAV reliability standards, designed to fly day in and day out without issue. The whole helicopter is being designed from the ground up specifically for carrying the DJI/Cineron gimbals. One thing that will greatly improve the vibration isolation is that more than 50% of the mass of the system will be isolated from vibration...leaving less than 50% of the mass to create the vibration. It will most likely be about 45-50 lbs all up (~20-25 lbs payload), electric, direct drive, 3-bladed 2300mm rotor diameter, retractable gear, aiming for flight times of 20 minutes, etc. It will be sold ready to go with custom made cases, maintenance schedules, etc.

We are a long way from going to market with either of these projects, but if anyone is interested, feel free to email cineron@aircam.co.

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02-06-2012 07:58 PM  6 years agoPost 15
High Spy

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Great video, really sorted setup.

Image below of a mount that never left the hard drive. Like a lot of my projects that seem to get put on the back burner.

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02-17-2012 05:00 AM  6 years agoPost 16
Yeehaanow

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Awesome footage.
Also very impressed that you are flying and driving a segway at the same time!

-Tim

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08-10-2012 03:48 AM  6 years agoPost 17
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Any new info on this?

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08-10-2012 04:24 PM  6 years agoPost 18
Dr. Fibinotchi

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hmm
Well done on the video. It seems you have a partnership with the right people. Carries a pretty professional reel.

-Cody

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08-10-2012 10:31 PM  6 years agoPost 19
xfc3dcd

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I'm starting to question whether or not this mount is actually for sale.

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12-11-2012 01:47 AM  5 years agoPost 20
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Video: SIX Great Advantage, Assembly & Calibration of S800 Retractable Landing Skid
Good Combination for Professional AP:

The video below is for your good understanding about SIX great advantages of DJI S800 Retractable Landing Skid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NorfS_OxMew

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After the video released days ago for SIX great advantages of S800 Retractable Landing Skid, DJI is glad to make another detailed video for Assembly, Calibration and Demostrations related to you here.

Watch at YouTube

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