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01-29-2012 03:43 PM  6 years agoPost 1
whoodie

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I would love some input from the RunRyder's!

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01-29-2012 03:50 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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Well, it seems like you've answered your own questions about the alternatives in your initial post already.

Those would be the same concerns I'd have and the reason I'd just stick with the Trex 700E. In fact, that's exactly the conclusion I came to also when I did my first 700 size electric not too long ago.

It's a fine heli and has about the best support available. The only thing I could find wrong with mine was the weak construction in the lower frames. You can partially fix this with the KDE lower frame brace and even Align makes a part for this now. You could modify the KDE part to fit on the front as well with a dremel tool, looks like.

Apart from that, it's pretty much everything you could want in an electric 700.

The Whippy is the only other one I'd consider right now (tho in my case I'd do the nitro since I'm not continuing with electric at this point).

LS

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01-29-2012 03:58 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Dr. D.

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700e
You left out the Minicopter Diabolo. I have a Joker 2, and like the solid way the Minicopters are built. As long as I don't fly it into the ground, this heli will last past the next 10 versions of its cheaper competitors.

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01-29-2012 04:48 PM  6 years agoPost 4
JPhillips

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TT G4 Raptor Another good candidate would be the MA Whiplash.

I've watched Bobby beat on his Whiplash countless times at our field, I'm waiting on the nitro version to be released.

Don't waste your money on Align.

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01-29-2012 05:00 PM  6 years agoPost 5
whoodie

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I know, I like the TT G4. It looks like a really solid design. If I were to critique it though; pricing strategy is poor, doesn't have direct to swash servo linkages and the forum support is worse than their pricing strategy.

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01-29-2012 05:05 PM  6 years agoPost 6
unclejane

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Don't waste your money on Align.
Arrgh, how dare ye criticize Align!...

But seriously, I'm also waiting with baited breath for the Whippies to start shipping and come into stock at the dealers.

I've never owned a MA but I've known lots of guys who have and they have nothing but good to say about them.

The Whippy in particular has some very nice design aspects, some of which are improvements over Align, like the sprag setup.

I'm not 100% happy with the direct-to-swash with the cyclic (the bellcrank system is a lot stronger and allows using cheezier servos) but for my flying style, I could still get away with inexpensive servos here. And yes it's clearly a lot easier to setup and maintain.

So I'm kind of waiting for the nitro Whippy to come out before I make my decision about my next heli. The electric tho I think is already starting to become available in some places.

LS

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01-29-2012 05:18 PM  6 years agoPost 7
heli-cuzz

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MA all the way!!!

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01-29-2012 05:24 PM  6 years agoPost 8
OLROY

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Logo >a heli in it's on class

Have you ever flown one?

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01-29-2012 05:27 PM  6 years agoPost 9
JPhillips

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Good points on the G4, I think it just needs more time.
Arrgh, how dare ye criticize Align!...
I just don't like them. If you have plenty of parts to replace when things get sloppy, then go for it.

I'm with ya, people that I know and fly MA have nothing but good to say as well. The Whiplash is no exception. The EP Whiplash is readily available, at least I know a lot of people flying them around me.

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01-29-2012 05:45 PM  6 years agoPost 10
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I just don't like them. If you have plenty of parts to replace when things get sloppy, then go for it.
Well my helis usually die in catastrophic must-rekit crashes long before they wear out, so that hasn't been much of an issue for me so far lol.

That said, the Align swashplate on my trex 700N has almost 20 hours on it now (the first 15 or so were put on it with my first 700N and the rest on the 700N FBL I replaced it with after its untimely death when I augered it in in the pits at my flying field) with no detectable deterioration in the bearing. In fact, that's what I like about my aligns so far, they havn't developed any slop at all in all the time I've flown them.

Couldn't say that about my old Shuttle or JR's I used fly tho lol.

As for the Whippy, I think I heard on the MA forum that the nitros should start shipping end of this month, which is tomorrow . I got a spare 91 HZ-R and a Vbar with Whippy written all over em...

LS

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01-29-2012 07:10 PM  6 years agoPost 11
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Logo >a heli in it's on class

Have you ever flown one?
Yes! I have a 500se and 6003D. Maidened the 500se yesterday and just got back from flying. Absolutely love the design & flight characteristics.

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01-29-2012 07:53 PM  6 years agoPost 12
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WOT

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01-29-2012 08:03 PM  6 years agoPost 13
Steff Giguere

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You will never get an answer for anyone on what you should choose and which is the best. I've flown lots of helicopters and to say the truth most fly nice. I choose the E7 only after having touched it and flown it, because the build was incredible and it flies the most precise of all the helis that I had flown to date and the quality is just up there.
Good luck in your choice.

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01-29-2012 08:05 PM  6 years agoPost 14
whoodie

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You will never get an answer for anyone on what you should choose and which is the best. I've flown lots of helicopters and to say the truth most fly nice. I choose the E7 only after having touched it and flown it, because the build was incredible and it flies the most precise of all the helis that I had flown to date and the quality is just up there.
Good luck in your choice.
I'm not looking for "what's the best...". You'll get lots of conflicting answers. What I'm looking for is a discussion of all of the 700 sized heli's out there based on first hand experience. Any pro can make a heli look great. What I'm interested in is day-to-day experience with the heli's.

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01-29-2012 08:15 PM  6 years agoPost 15
Helico-pteron

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Synergy is definitely not "the best", but it is up there. Some of the fastener quality is lacking and the links are garbage.

The 700E is reliable, cheap and easy to fix. Everything fits very well and the fasteners are better than they used to be. It's the most popular 90 class electric and it's easy to gt help at the field for that reason.

I make my purchase decisions based on design, I care not what is popular at the moment. I then base my decision to keep it on how well it handles IRL and what parts break during normal use.

Outrage was the worst out of the helis I have owned.

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01-29-2012 08:19 PM  6 years agoPost 16
Santiago P

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1. Logo Exxtreme - While not a 700, it is a candidate for me. It's a little on the big side, won't fit in my car (Subaru STi) easily. Also, it's not in the customers hands yet, we know little about it.
2. SAB Goblin - New still, we know little about it
3. TDR - Long waiting list to get one (unless I buy used).Nice design, seems like it fits my current flying style perfectly.
4. Thunder Tiger Raptor G4 - very little forum activity about this heli. It looks like it's a well thought out design, it seems all "there".
5. CYE Rave - Having owned the 450, I'm scared about the part support, seems like what you need is always out of stock. Battery system sucks, supposedly fixed in the FSO.
6. Compass 7HV - I have little knowledge about this brand.
7. Synergy - Same as Compass
8. Align 700e - I thought we could discuss reasons to keep my current heli
whoodie!

Do you even KNOW WHAT YOU WANT?

That is an all over the place list of good and ok models.

If you want a TDR because you like it, then order a TDR, it'll be in your hands before you can think of.

If you just want a good beater, fun helicopter to fly around, and you have a 700E, FLY YOUR 700e!

IF you are flying flybarless, set it up better, get a better motor, better or zero deadband servos, blades, etc.

The only heli that really stands out from the others on the list is the TDR.
Yes the Goblin looks promising, but I would never rush out to get a helicopter that just gets released, from a company that's never put a kit before. Not saying they will be bad, is just a word of caution.

Settle down,
Think about it,
and then decide what model will bring YOU the most fun.

Asking people what to get is like standing by Intertate 75 holding a sign that says "Taiwan"

Be an individual, make your own choises!

S

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01-29-2012 10:25 PM  6 years agoPost 17
whoodie

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whoodie!

Do you even KNOW WHAT YOU WANT?

That is an all over the place list of good and ok models...
Yeah, it's a big list. My short list of candidates excludes Compass and Synergy. After flying my Mikados' all day today, I'm 90% confident another German heli will make it into my hands. Again, the reason I made this post is to see what others have to say about the 700e heli offerings. I flew my Align 700e today and loved every second of it, as I always had. But now that I've picked up a replacement for my single battery heli (Align 550 -> Logo 500) and noticing how much more I liked to fly it, I'm in the mood to change up my fleet.

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01-30-2012 12:13 AM  6 years agoPost 18
Terrabit

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MA stuff is probably the best designed, engineered and manufactured heli out there. But there is a reason why it's been dubbed the "Piglash." Personally, I think the Trex 700E is a solid compromise. Mine weighs in at 10.5lbs with Hyperion 35c 4200's and will get 6 minutes of moderate sport and basic 3d. It flies like a 90 becuase it is. Parts are cheap and readily available. Maybe when my budget improves I'll build a Whiplash. At that point though I'd probably opt for an Xxtreme with 813's.

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01-30-2012 12:33 AM  6 years agoPost 19
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Yeah, it's a big list. My short list of candidates excludes Compass and Synergy. After flying my Mikados' all day today, I'm 90% confident another German heli will make it into my hands. Again, the reason I made this post is to see what others have to say about the 700e heli offerings. I flew my Align 700e today and loved every second of it, as I always had. But now that I've picked up a replacement for my single battery heli (Align 550 -> Logo 500) and noticing how much more I liked to fly it, I'm in the mood to change up my fleet.
Well you know the compass 7hv was designed in germany if you didnt know that and has a very good track record.

Team Compass Models, Team Hitec and KBDD

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01-30-2012 12:37 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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+1
whippy

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