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01-30-2012 02:02 PM  6 years agoPost 41
DS 8717

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Guy at our field flys for heli-wholesaler and has a electric whiplash,doesnt look or fly like a failure to me,a lot of inovations i havnt seen anywhere else,and very high quality.

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01-30-2012 02:03 PM  6 years agoPost 42
CX1

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the Whiplash Nitro 90. We have quite a few orders for this machine; about twice as many as we had for the Electric.
no surprise there.
nitro will be around for years to come

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01-30-2012 02:09 PM  6 years agoPost 43
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Some guys will buy x brand and be loyal even if it is a heavy POS that needs mods to balance or fly right. I fail to see innovation in the whiplash or for that matter of many of the newest models that were released in last year kinda disappointing really. This time last year I was quite excited and had lots on my mind I wanted to purchase now 2012 nothing gets me even wanting to add to wish list.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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01-30-2012 02:26 PM  6 years agoPost 44
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The last three birds I bought were nitro,Is nitro dead???I don't think so......but I sure would like a Goblin...

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01-30-2012 04:01 PM  6 years agoPost 45
Jeff polisena

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Whiplash E in not a failure , MA makes quality not quantity and that comes at a cost . Kasamas get the same bashing as well as some of JR helis . When you compare to a Trex 700 or any Align producs the manufacturing is not the same nor the quality .Most pilots are thrash and crash pilots and that can be expensive and complicated for repairs . I'm not bashing any one variable but some 90 size helis are just 50s on steroids and are build and fly with no real precision .

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-30-2012 04:13 PM  6 years agoPost 46
OICU812

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Quality yes, light and well thought out? No
Perhaps failure is a strong word, rather disappointing I would say fits bill better. As said some other releases fall into that as well..

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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01-30-2012 05:16 PM  6 years agoPost 47
unclejane

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Quality yes, light and well thought out? No
Perhaps you're referring to the rudder-servo-in-the-way problem that was found right after the E's release? To me, that was kind of a not so good goof. Bobby Watts did come up with a fix by slanting the battery tray, but there were already guys cutting up the frames to move the servo further up within a couple days of that....

I really like how they did the nitro tho. That looks almost completely trouble-free....

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01-30-2012 06:40 PM  6 years agoPost 48
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Heavy....yes,but it still flys great.The nitro better be lighter or a 120 will be mandatory.....

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01-30-2012 06:44 PM  6 years agoPost 49
DS 8717

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Some guys will buy x brand and be loyal even if it is a heavy POS that needs mods to balance or fly right. I fail to see innovation in the whiplash or for that matter of many of the newest models that were released in last year kinda disappointing really. This time last year I was quite excited and had lots on my mind I wanted to purchase now 2012 nothing gets me even wanting to add to wish list.
What other heli has the autorotation one way built into the pinion brg.Individual struts for the landing gear.There was some other but i forget what they were...

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01-30-2012 07:27 PM  6 years agoPost 50
Jeff polisena

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Now here's a question ,what new Heli never had any issues or needs to mod or upgrade ?

When I started hobby I flew planks to learn helis because that's what I was told to do . I started to fly helis and wanted a Jetcopter SX ,well 14 years later I've had almost every air frame as well as Jetcopter plus turbine T700 .Now I've went to a 35% yak plank and doing 3D. I'm saying this because no matter what is manufactured there is someone that can make it better and people like me will buy to see if it is and that's what makes this hobby last .

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01-30-2012 07:30 PM  6 years agoPost 51
JasonJ

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There aren't any current offerings that make me want to spend money. For me, the exciting stuff is the new tech. Servos, fbl, things like that. They keep coming out with new airframes but can it truly be said that they fly better enough to spend the money? I can see buying them if you just like new stuff but people like me need more. It just seems that it's the stuff you bolt onto that airframe that makes it fly good any more.

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01-30-2012 07:44 PM  6 years agoPost 52
Richardmid1

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If they start producing the Lithium Air (or Oxygen) batteries that are supposed to hold 5-10 times the capacity as todays Li-po/Li-ion batteries for the same weight THEN we will see if nitro dies or not!

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_...uction-in-2020/

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01-30-2012 07:50 PM  6 years agoPost 53
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Thanks for that link. That's exciting technology.

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01-30-2012 08:25 PM  6 years agoPost 54
Jeff polisena

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2020 so maybe 2025 in the RC market

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01-30-2012 09:21 PM  6 years agoPost 55
Santiago P

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I think we need some water cooled gasser engines. Then you can really unleach those beasts. Air cooled in a heli does not cut it for gasoline spark ignition. Make those ignitions digital with more than one map, power, and economy.

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01-30-2012 09:28 PM  6 years agoPost 56
Richardmid1

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A mini motocross engine, thats whats needed for gassers, not a chainsaw engine!

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01-30-2012 09:41 PM  6 years agoPost 57
Santiago P

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Well, not motocross but same power and technology level, add balanced.

Don't see why can't have a decent 50-75cc twin, or counterbalanced single with the power output of motocross or go-carts have.

So it will cost twice as much to mass produce.
Do you see what you pay for the level of performance a gasser puts out today?

We keep settling for chainsaw - weed wacker technology.

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01-30-2012 10:15 PM  6 years agoPost 58
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Electrics have certainly been doinating the scale heli arena and for good reason, it offers many advantages but nitro still has its place there and i for one will continue to run nitro engines in my scalers along with the electrics i have.

drive a rotary, fly a rotorcraft

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01-31-2012 11:49 AM  6 years agoPost 59
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Liquid-cooled engines would be nice, but then there's the extra weight of a radiator, pump, and lines. The fan would rob power unless you go with an electric fan. This does have an appeal though because there are guys that like building and maintaining miniature machines whatever that may be. That's what got the rc hobby going and later the challenge for model rotory flight isn't it?

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01-31-2012 12:36 PM  6 years agoPost 60
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if you look at what the car guys are doing, they have multi cylinder, water cooled, and otherwise exotic engines.

they also seem willing to pay $1K and more for custom made, low volume engines

I haven't seen much willingness to do that in the gas helicopter market. An awful lot of folks seem to balk at the idea of even paying the same amount for a modified gas engine as they do for a high end glow motor.

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