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01-27-2012 05:24 PM  6 years agoPost 1
trexstuntin3d

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Why do people think that the new low price on something sold here in the classified section, is the price the last guy who was desperate to sell his stuff to pay his mortgage or pay a medical bill. Every time I turn around and come back the worth on stuff in this Helicopter hobby keeps getting lower and lower? So low that MOST can't get what they wanted back out of a REALLY REALLY expensive hobby. It's sad enough that MOST people can't even afford this hobby because it's so expensive..

Some times the classified section reminds me of Craislist to where I ask A price and everyone comes back with a rediculous offer $100 or more under what I ask or someone else ask on there post.I mean I know most know that paypal fee's and shipping aren't cheap either on top of the haggling. I know everyone here has experienced this and it is not just me! So I know most can relate to this Off topic post because it has happened to all of us NOT just me. I would just like to know how some feel about this and if I'm just plum crazy. Not like this will stop me in the future from flying heli's but just maybe make me really think before I buy next time, do I really need this extra heli because I won't be able to get some or at least close to the price I payed if I resale.

Does anyone think that this is going to make the companies lower their prices and be more competitive with they're pricing so that more can afford to get into this ridiculously expensive hobby? If so great but it's sad it has to be done at the consumer's expense..

I'm not trying to offend anyone here, this is something that I have been pondering for awhile. So if you have something that isn't super negative to say cool, but for those that would love to be a a** about me posting something just hit the back button and go to another post. Also for those who like to correct people this is an Off topic post, that's why I posted it here in OFF TOPIC.

Thanks to those who took the time to read this, and apologies to those who take offense ahead of time. And thanks to RunRyder for providing all of us a kicka** place for us heli guy's!!! Thanks Mark

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01-27-2012 05:40 PM  6 years agoPost 2
ticedoff8

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I am guilty of doing the same thing - I think everyone is.

"The seller thinks their product is Priceless & a Buyer thinks the product is worthless" - just human nature.

I have an Align starter listed for sale - it was $180 new (battery included), it is 5 months old (bought new in Oct '11), the battery has been charged maybe 5 times and I have it listed for $90 (shipping included).
I just got an "offer" of $80.
I figure $90 shipped is a great deal - why offer $10 less?
Now, $10 doesn't seem like a lot, but the starter is already less than 1/2 the "new" retail price and and $10 is an additional 10% off.

The other side of this is the seller who doesn't list his product correctly.
I just bought a YS 91SR-3DS at a pretty good discount - I paid the asking price. The description and PM made it sound like a great deal. When I got it, the main bearing & crank were rusted, the ring was wore and the pipe was full of congealed oil. It was basically worth less than it was listed for - even though the price was already low. If it had been an accurate description, I would have bargained more and been aware of what I would need to get it ready to run.

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01-27-2012 05:45 PM  6 years agoPost 3
sincity

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Hobby stuff second hand plain and simple is worthless. Just the way it is.

I tried selling a Raptor 50 SE frame with servos and governor for $250. Didn't get one bite.

Tried to make it a bit cheaper for someone to get into the hobby, but I guess Raptor 50's are yesterday's news. They aren't the latest and greatest.

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01-27-2012 05:47 PM  6 years agoPost 4
ThumbBumper

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ticedoff8 Perhaps this is the reason why most people prefer to offer low prices??

After you get burned once or twice, your entire perspective on buying this way gets tainted.

If it ain't broke, go fly some more!
http://facebook.com/groups/TORCHS/

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01-27-2012 05:48 PM  6 years agoPost 5
eppler

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I was selling a 50NX complete with all electronics 8fg,750, OS hyper 50 and extra gears and other parts. I reduced it down to 800.00 and some guy offered 700 plus wanted me to drive 5 hr across Texas to meet him so he wouldn’t have to pay shipping. Needles to say I still have it!

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01-27-2012 06:10 PM  6 years agoPost 6
AtTheCross

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it's because people are watching too much 'Pawn Star'

ASI Green Mongoose CY29RC - 67 flights

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01-27-2012 06:28 PM  6 years agoPost 7
MikeSherman

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I still don't understand why sellers get all upset at lowball offers? They say things like, "Don't waste my time!" or "It's already 1/2 off of what I paid for it!". So what? Why do I care how much you paid for it?

Some guys unload stuff here at extremely low prices cause they need to get rid of it ASAP - they just want a buyer. Others may decide their stuff is worthy of a higher price, so they sit on the sale longer waiting for the right buyer. Both parties have to agree on a price.

If you don't like the offer - say No.

If you like the offer - say yes.

If you want something in between - offer it.

-Mike

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Team Heliproz

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01-27-2012 06:30 PM  6 years agoPost 8
Foz

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The seller wants the highest price and the buyer the lowest. That's life. I don't understand while people complain about haggling. If the offer is too low all you have to say is no.

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01-27-2012 06:31 PM  6 years agoPost 9
Wave

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My suggestion.

Never ever buy a bunch of spare parts for your heli's.....PERIOD.

Spare parts rarely bring much if anything when you sell.

Only order parts after a crash, and only order what you need.

Resist the urge to bling, its just more money down the drain.

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01-27-2012 06:38 PM  6 years agoPost 10
MikeSherman

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Never ever buy a bunch of spare parts for your heli's.....PERIOD.

Spare parts rarely bring much if anything when you sell.

Only order parts after a crash, and only order what you need.

Resist the urge to bling, its just more money down the drain.
Good advice - unless you only have one bird and still crash on a somewhat regular basis. It sucks when go for a quick flight after work on a beautiful Friday afternoon and crash. No parts = no flying the balance of the weekend.

-Mike

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01-27-2012 08:05 PM  6 years agoPost 11
Jgatorman

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Birmingham, AL

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I am a little worn out by these type of posts!

Selling and buying are elemetary so lets not make it difficult.

If you dont want to sell for a lower price, DON'T

If you dont want to buy for a higher price, DON'T

Our used helicopter stuff is only worth what the market will bare, simple.

Not to mention you are buying sight unseen, have no real idea how many times it has been crashed or flown. Plenty of helicopters have been sold as new, never crashed, crashed but all parts replaced as new...then you get it and have to replace half the bearings in it.

I will give my stuff away before I will sell it at 25 cents on a dollar. This way I feel good for giving instead of bad for loosing my butt on an item.

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01-27-2012 09:03 PM  6 years agoPost 12
Gearhead

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fact is, and I have noticed, more stuff was bought-up 3 years ago,, but today their is less money in people's pockets

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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01-27-2012 09:12 PM  6 years agoPost 13
rcjon

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Macon, GA

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Saw a sign in a store window a while back that made me laugh.

FOR SALE
95 Monte Carlo
$2500
or best offer
Not less that $2000

Sounded to me like $2000 was the number.

Ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for Radio Control Helicoptering.

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01-27-2012 10:54 PM  6 years agoPost 14
wizen2002

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01-27-2012 10:59 PM  6 years agoPost 15
Dood

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This is why I edit the prices out of ALL things I sell on here.
I encourage others to do the same.

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01-28-2012 04:37 AM  6 years agoPost 16
trexstuntin3d

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Thank you everyone for your comments and keeping it respectful...
@ticedoff8- sorry for your on the heli you got burned on, I agree that everyone has done as I have as well once or twice, I do really try not to tho. Totally human nature. Your price on starter was more than fair! thx for your reply

@sincity- I guess your right hobby stuff might be worthless to the buyer, I just feel that heli stuff is better than a rc car or truck's that really get bashed to where heli's are in the air and not doing jumps and hard landing gran it they also get hard landings and crashes but i'm sure you get what I mean. I think planes and heli's are in a different class when it comes to second hand stuff, just my opinion tho...I do understand what you meant tho. Thx for your reply

@ThumbBumper- I agree that when someone get's burned they have a way different outlook on buying used or plain dealing with site unseen. Thx for your reply

@eppler- Some people are just plum crazy and exspect the world to be handed to them. Thx for your reply

@AtTheCross- HaHa I laughed so hard when I read your post you crack me up because it's so true!

@MikeSherman- I agree everyone has to agree and if one doesn't like it then don't buy or sell it. I agree, but It sucks that when someone is researching what prices are going for and see the lowest price I.E. the guy who had to unload at that insanely low price that next buyer of that particular product they automatically assume it should be that insanely low price just not fair to the rest of us selling. Thx for your reply

@Foz- This is true, buyer wants high and seller wants low. If I had a dollar for every time my dad said this frase I'd have enough money to buy RunRyder. Haggling is cool but offering redonkulous offers is outrages. I'm sure you have dealt with this as well. Thx for your reply

@Wave- I totally agree with your quote DON'T buy a bunch of spare parts as they are worthless in a resale and you may never have to use them. It does suck tho when you do need it and you don't have it. If you make six figures buy them if not don't! Thx for your reply

@Jgatorman- You have the power to hit the Back button if you are tired of these post. But i'm sure if you post again in this post you were one of the 90 people who subscribed to this topic in 8 hours time period. Apparently others aren't. Elementary or not. I can see why you would hate a post like this because your mainly on the buying side of the game rather than selling here and you don't want others to see post like this so others think more about lowering prices. I agree with everything else you said but I feel a negative vibe from your post. I'm sure you will come back with more negative stuff to say, I can feel it coming on... Hopefully not and you will stop reading post of this type.. Thx for your input...

@Gearhead- This is true, peeps do not have the money like they did years before to spend. I know I wish I had more moola! Then I wouldn't have had to sell all my stuff to help my family put my Grandpa in a facility after he came down with bad Dementia. Facility Care is expensive $5,000 a month! Thx for your reply

@rcjon_ Hahaha guess $2,000 was the magic number! Thx for your funny comment it made me have a good chuckle

@Dood- Your post is the best one. I alway's wondered why some people did this but this would be a great Idea and would level out the playing field! Great comment Thx for your reply! Great Idea

Thank you all for your great ideas and positive comments as I'm not posting to start a war or make anyone feel offended. I just wanted to see what others thought of this topic. Hope no one was offended as this is not my intentions, honestly just wanted some feedback.. Thank you everyone! I feel blessed to not have had any bad deals go south and everyone here I've dealt with here has been very up front and honest with what they were selling to me. There are A LOT of GOOD people here on RunRyder and some questionable ones.. And once again thank you RunRyder for a kickbutt website!!!
Everyone have a great fun safe weekend!!

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01-28-2012 05:27 PM  6 years agoPost 17
wargor

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Islands

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I always post something for sale here first. I set the price that I am willing to sell it at. If it doesn't sell here, there are other places to sell that I have better results. Low balling seems to be the trend here so I don't waste my time too often. I have 100% feedback but that doesn't mean a thing here on RR. Just my .02!

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