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01-28-2012 03:47 AM  6 years agoPost 21
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dennis you're a nutorious liar, for an old man tell the truth for god sake, bush pordon libby before he spend a day in jail.
do you remembe the statement, i am the president no worry
you will never see jail. do you remember that statement,????
they all leake valerie plame identity and should be charge for treason, you are the most dangerous person on this forum.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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01-28-2012 04:19 AM  6 years agoPost 22
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On July 25, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, presiding officer of the Convention:

Permit me to hint whether it would not be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.[9]

There is no proof that deliberations took place at the convention on the subject of the letter. While the Committee on Detail originally proposed that the President must be merely a citizen as well as a resident for 21 years, the Committee of Eleven changed "citizen" to "natural born citizen" without explanation. The Convention accepted the change without further debate.[

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01-28-2012 04:25 AM  6 years agoPost 23
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they all leake valerie plame identity and should be charge for treason
Then, why don't you go after them escobar.

Come on little man, you can do it.

you are the most dangerous person on this forum.
Dang rights.

Don't you ever forget it.

Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

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01-28-2012 04:37 AM  6 years agoPost 24
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Conclusion

Extending citizenship to non-citizens through birth based solely upon locality is nothing more than mere municipal law that has no extra-territorial effect as proven from the English practice of it. On the other hand, citizenship by descent through the father is natural law and is recognized by all nations (what nation doesn’t recognize citizenship of children born wherever to their own citizens?). Thus, a natural-born citizen is one whose citizenship is recognized by law of nations rather than mere local recognition.

Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, James F. Wilson of Iowa, confirmed this in 1866: “We must depend on the general law relating to subjects and citizens recognized by all nations for a definition, and that must lead us to the conclusion that every person born in the United States is a natural-born citizen of such States, except that of children born on our soil to temporary sojourners or representatives of foreign Governments.”*

When a child inherits the citizenship of their father, they become a natural-born citizen of the nation their father belongs regardless of where they might be born. It should be pointed out that citizenship through descent of the father was recognized by U.S. Naturalization law whereby children became citizens themselves as soon as their father had become a naturalized citizen, or were born in another country to a citizen father.

Yes, birth is prima facie evidence of citizenship, but only the citizenship of the nation the father is a member.

In regards to questions about the citizenship of the mother: Mothers citizenship rarely ever influenced the citizenship of their children except in certain situations such as the father dying before the child was born or when the identity of the father was unknown.

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01-28-2012 01:59 PM  6 years agoPost 25
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Oh come on now guys! You all know that Obama is above the law. He makes his own up everyday.
If this goes through he'll just remove Georgia from America's 57 states and then conquer it later when he has installed himself as our king!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-28-2012 03:53 PM  6 years agoPost 26
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are you kidding me baby bush pordon one man before he serve a day in jail after he and the man leak vlaery plame identity is he a commander in chif are trial judge??? i said both for the answer.

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01-28-2012 04:50 PM  6 years agoPost 27
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look into the people Clinton pardoned...if you dare.

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01-28-2012 04:56 PM  6 years agoPost 28
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It turned out that a Dem operative leaked the name. Bush pardoned an innocent man.
The Clintons pardoned terrorists when they left office!

Esco, You have Rachel Madcow disease!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-28-2012 05:02 PM  6 years agoPost 29
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baby uh1 fli heli boy let me hear the answer
They spend a long time in prison before they get pordon,
scooter libby was pordon never taste jail. wow this's big story.
how is mr bush doing after he busted {covert operation agent}
isn't that treason????????????????????

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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01-28-2012 05:46 PM  6 years agoPost 30
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They spend a long time in preson before they get pordon,
scooter libby was pordon never taste jail. wow this's big story.
how is mr bush doing after he busted {covert operation agent}
isn't that treason????????????????????
Not if it never happened!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-28-2012 05:53 PM  6 years agoPost 31
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Not if it ever happen what the fact, you're going to sit there and flatly denied it you're facting good at what you do,
you should be a lawyer,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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01-28-2012 05:55 PM  6 years agoPost 32
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Thanks,It's easy to be correct when you stick with the truth!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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01-28-2012 10:47 PM  6 years agoPost 33
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Watch at YouTube

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01-29-2012 01:01 AM  6 years agoPost 34
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kramer why are you trying change history.???? your constitutation
want you to be born in the USA before you can be president'
why you want to change it now saying now that the person mom and dad
have to born here to be eligible to hold office.

you all cannot beat the president, by voting so you all trying to change the constitutation, to make this a reality' you should be ashame of what the party is doing.

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01-29-2012 01:05 AM  6 years agoPost 35
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it's called LAW dumbazz. We're not a democracy, we're a Republic, which means rule by law. You truly have no clue.
The law of being a president is clear. Odumbo doesn't meet that criteria. He should be disallowed if only for his pig wife.

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01-29-2012 01:07 AM  6 years agoPost 36
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01-29-2012 01:33 AM  6 years agoPost 37
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The law of being a president is clear. Odumbo doesn't meet that criteria. He should be disallowed if only for his pig wife
find it and shoe me where it say the person mom and dad have to be born in this country before he can be president
go get it'

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01-29-2012 01:51 AM  6 years agoPost 38
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The natural-born-citizen clause was an attempt to allay concerns that foreign aristocrats would immigrate to the new nation and use their wealth and influence to impose a monarchy on the new nation.[5] In furtherance of this goal, the Framers also imposed a 14 year residency requirement of anyone who would seek to become President of the United States.
If it was intended that anybody who was a citizen by birth should be eligible, it would only have been necessary to say, “no person, except a native-born citizen”; but the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the president should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth. It may be observed in passing that the current phrase “native-born citizen” is well understood; but it is pleonasm and should be discarded; and the correct designation, “native citizen” should be substituted in all constitutional and statutory enactments, in judicial decisions and in legal discussions where accuracy and precise language are essential to intelligent discussion.

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01-29-2012 02:02 AM  6 years agoPost 39
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point out where it say boths parent have to be american hurry.

deaf ears give a liar problem and if they cant read it even worst.
read it over, and read it aloud,

do me a favor, if your brain cannot compute the text you'll not
have an understanding of the article, when you read fix your brain on
the word not the letter, then it'll make sense at the end of the sentense,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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01-29-2012 02:05 AM  6 years agoPost 40
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The forefathers did not want immigrants coming over here and infiltrating themselves into this countries government.What Obama's father did is excactly what they did not want to happen.ITs pretty simple,what other reason would they say natural born citizen?
Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: ".If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Barack Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama's mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai'i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama's birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn't matter *after*.

In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama's birth when she was 18 in Hawai'i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama's birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
The above is what Georgia has filed against Obama and of course like many men of color that get subpoenaed to appear ,he was a no-show.
Louisiana and several other states intend to follow suit to keep Obama off the ballot.This would also show that he was not eligible to be on the ballot in 2008.

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