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01-27-2012 02:02 PM  6 years agoPost 1
towtrucktony

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So I have been checking out the posts here and I am going to take the plunge and converte my Trex 600N to electric. I just kind of want to see what motor you all would use I am SO confused as to what motor battery combo to use. I fly mild 3d but want to get into more aggresive 3D in the next year or two. I want to try and get away with only using a single 5200 6s lipo for the flight pack But I have seen that alot of people that do this conversion use 8s lipo setups. The three differant motors I am looking at using are either a Scorpion Brushless Motor HK-4025-740KV 70A, OR the Align KX860024A 650L Brushless 1220KV Motor OR the ALIGN RCM-BL600XL BRUSHLESS 1650KV MOTOR. IF I go with a single 6s lipo should I just get the ALIGN RCM-BL600XL 1650KV Motor I mean since this motor is 1650kv it is the most powerful motor of the three I have listed RIGHT??? alot of guys use the Scorpion motor but they are also using like a 8-10s setup. The only reason I am not leaning this way is the ESC that can handle that is real expensive. What do you guys think. The reason I am converting this heli is I just moved to Colorado to over 7000 feet elevation and I cant get the motor to run very well I always thought I was a good tuner BUT since I moved here I just cant get my head around this tune. So I am going to pull all the Nitro stuff out of this bird and sell it then convert it. I also want to convert it JUST BECAUSE.

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01-27-2012 07:33 PM  6 years agoPost 2
nhas924

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This is a reply I made recently: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=375220
Pics: https://picasaweb.google.com/117766...feat=directlink
any questions feel free to post here or pm me

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01-27-2012 08:42 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Santiago P

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towtrucktony

You need to seriously reconsider what you want to do.
They are more benefits to be gained from using a high voltage setup (10-12 cells) than the hassle of using 2 batteries.
The 2 batteries can be much cheaper, they run at a very low C draw, the entire system runs cooler, better motors and ESC available etc, AND there is more power on tap, when you need it

I would prefer to stay nitro than to use a 6cell setup unless is exclusively for just hovering and mild forward flight.

After owning and flying a high voltage setup for a year, I would never go for any less on a 600 helicopter and up. I can fly between 6 and 10 minutes and my batteries are barely warm, and within the 80% threshold.

Golden rule applies: cheap stuff cost more in the long run

S

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01-27-2012 10:36 PM  6 years agoPost 4
Friday_2008

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Athens, Greece

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Steer away from your thoughts on converting. Just an advice though.

I have been there with a Raptor Titan 50 SE, that i converted to electric, but i never got to have fun with it. It always had me left the field with seconds thoughts. It was flying at least weird. Not to mention the cost of converting. As they are meant to be nitros, they are built with that in mind.

I recently got a JR Vibe 50 Nex E8, and boy, what a difference. It really flies amazing and had fun with it even on maiden. it is meant to be electric and the weight is distributed likewise.

Have to say here, that both setups on JR and Raptor were the same, i parted out the Rappy to built the E8.

I used Scorpion 4025-740 / DS610 / BLS 251 / BeastX / Cc Ice 80HV / 2X4s 5000mAh 30C Flightmax / Duralite regulator 7,5Amp.

just my opinion though.

If you don't feel like flying, then don't

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01-28-2012 12:06 AM  6 years agoPost 5
Santiago P

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Steer away from your thoughts on converting. Just an advice though.
I second strongly this ^^^ advice. The cost of converting a model and doing it right is significant.

My casual "go out and have fun" helis are nitro. My competiion machines are electric. Converting the one was actually cost effective for me and about $1000 cheaper than acquiring a native electric FAI heli.

S

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01-28-2012 01:48 AM  6 years agoPost 6
nhas924

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For me, flying electric models was cleaner and quieter. My 600n just sat there. I'm hooked on electrics. I noticed,by watching the classifieds, people were almost giving their 600n's away to go electric. My 600 is an older model. As it is,it's almost worthless. Fiberglass frame, plastic tail.
I believe first and foremost, I'm a "modeler". I didn't like what I had so I did something about it.
The "conversion" cost about $20.
Motor mount: https://www.scaleflying.com/Motor-Mount-_p_1681.html
Frame bolts: https://www.scaleflying.com/Frame-M...lt-_p_1609.html
I purchased 4 nylon spacers, stand-offs, whatever you want to call them, at the local hardware store with another $3 in nuts/bolts. I had a piece of light plywood hanging around from my plank days and easily made a battery mount where the fuel tank used to be.
I read the forums alot and see the benefit of running at least a 8s setup. I'm a sport flyer so the expense of 12s made no sense to me. Also, the design of the 600n may necessitate 1 battery in front, another behind for balance. 2 4s batteries is as expensive as 1 6s battery so thinking there's a $ savings with 6s isn't true.
The align esc you'll need: http://helidirect.com/align-100a-br...100g-p-4171.hdx
The esc you should use: http://helidirect.com/castle-creati...ane-p-15842.hdx
It's good to 8s.
Align motor: http://helidirect.com/align-600mx-b...0mx-p-22962.hdx
Scorpion 6s motor: http://helidirect.com/scorpion-hk-4...600-p-21008.hdx
Scorpion 8s motor: http://helidirect.com/scorpion-hk-4...new-p-20933.hdx
Hyperion 8s motor: http://www.experiencerc.com/store/h...-08-p-7525.html
You'll need one of these too: http://helidirect.com/castle-creati...pro-p-15914.hdx
Battery 6s: http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-sl5000-6s1p-30c-6666.html
Battery 8s x 2: http://www.hobbypartz.com/77p-sl4000-4s1p-30c-4444.html
Couldn't get the Hobby King links to work. 2 4s batteries are $70. 1 6s battery is $70.
My 2 cents.

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