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01-26-2012 06:57 AM  7 years ago
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dodgeguy44

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Thunder Power 1430 charger and a 36 volt power supply.
I purchased the Thunderpower TP1430 charger which can take input voltage up to 36 volts. I have not seen any 36 volt PS's on the web. I guess I will be making one out of server power supplies.

Any other ideas?
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01-26-2012 10:31 AM  7 years ago
Raptorz499

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Call Thunder Power they will help!
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01-26-2012 03:06 PM  7 years ago
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01-26-2012 03:46 PM  7 years ago
cshutchinson

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Looking at this page in the TP1430 manual I can see NO REASON for a 36V charger or any benefit it would provide. Am I missing something?

From this 'insert' in both of my TP1430 manuals, it appears that max charger output is reached at 24V!
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01-26-2012 03:58 PM  7 years ago
BrainDrain_dx

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Kind of disappointing... I was going to get a couple but 10 amps at 12s is less then the 15 amps I'm getting out of the 820 at 24v.KDS Agile 7.2/5.5 Chase 360 - SkyHero Spyder/Spy/Little Spyder
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01-26-2012 04:15 PM  7 years ago
cshutchinson

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Yes, I agree, I was not happy when this addendum page fell out of the manual!!!
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01-27-2012 01:50 AM  7 years ago
TheWoodCrafter

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The new charger has a disappointing output.
And from a company with such a good reputation.
Thanks, TheWoodCrafter
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01-27-2012 04:52 AM  7 years ago
Band1086

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Wait a minute, it has the same specs as the 3010B except it is rated to be able to charge up to 14S or 58.8V max. It has a limit of 1008W or 30A or 58.8V X 17.14A. Am I missing some thing here? It has more power output than the 820... both ports combined which is 8S max or 20A or 400W/ side.
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01-27-2012 04:58 AM  7 years ago
TheWoodCrafter

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They are advertising a 14S 30AMP charger.

Well, it is not that at all.

It is a 10AMP 14S charger.
Thanks, TheWoodCrafter
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01-27-2012 04:58 AM  7 years ago
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it only reaches 1000 watts on 8s and goes down from there. Being a single port charger makes it bad to charge a 12s. You would need two to beat the 820. One per 6s and then you get 30 amps a bat. Would rather get two pl8's and hit 40 amps a batKDS Agile 7.2/5.5 Chase 360 - SkyHero Spyder/Spy/Little Spyder
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01-27-2012 05:25 AM  7 years ago
Band1086

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They are advertising a 14S 30AMP charger
The TP site says this:
1 - 14 Cell LiPo/LiIon/LiFe, 1-40 Cell NiCd/NiMH,
6-48V Pb, 0.20-30.0 Amp, 1000 Watt Single Port DC Charger/Discharger/Cycler w/Balancer
In other words it's limit is 14S, 30A or 1000W, whichever comes first. The 3010B is exactly the same except it's "S" limit is 10.
Neither will charge a 10S 5000ma at 30A...

OK, if you charge 2 X 6S 5000ma batts, one on each side of the 820, it will give you 15A+ @ charged voltage. If you charge 2 X 6S 5000's in parallel on the 1430 you will get 15A into each batt for a total of 30A which is one of the chargers limits. However, I don't quite understand why, as you increase output voltage on the 1430 past 8S, the wattage drops rapidly. Maybe it becomes less eff. at higher voltages. But it should still parallel charge at 30A up to 8S. Maybe I'll give TP a call and find out why according to the chart, it will not give it's 1000W rating at anything above 8S...

But it still should charge 2 8S batts in parallel faster the the 820 because of it's 1000W limit and the 820's 800W limit.
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01-27-2012 05:38 AM  7 years ago
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I didn't think about parallel. Charging the 6s2p is faster than 12s1p. What a crockKDS Agile 7.2/5.5 Chase 360 - SkyHero Spyder/Spy/Little Spyder
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01-27-2012 05:41 AM  7 years ago
Band1086

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BTW that chart doesn't make a lot of sense anyway. For instance, it says 20V-24V you can get 1008W out charging 8S @ 30A. While the output wattage seems correct, the input wattage doesn't.

20V X 40A = 800W
24V X 40A = 960W

How can the charger output more wattage than it inputs?

I think the chart is messed up. It should take at least 1150W(40A X 28.75V) input to get 1000W output, with charger losses.

We should find out from TP before we get disgusted and sell them...
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01-27-2012 06:18 AM  7 years ago
cshutchinson

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I really hope the chart is wrong. I am knee deep into this. I guess I just need to push the charger tomorrow and verify the chart at 1p12s. It will be next week before I can test 1p14s.

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01-27-2012 06:45 AM  7 years ago
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That's a very nice looking box you built. Good work.Avant RC
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01-27-2012 01:48 PM  7 years ago
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For dodgeguy

Do a search on the web and you'll see these retail new for $1200-$1500. 1500 watts for under $200 and free shipping. If these were 24-27volts...I'd be all over them. Still, a great buy if you want 36 volts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18079912642...984.m1423.l2649
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01-27-2012 03:42 PM  7 years ago
cshutchinson

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I just confirmed, on 12s Lipo charge, the firmware will not allow you to increase the charge rate to any more than 10 amps

I guess the firmware is set according to the chart to limit how you can set your charge parameters. I have scanned the manual to figure out how to bypass this setting, but all the parameters are already at MAX; such as INPUT CURRENT MAX...mine is already set at 40A at 24V which is indeed what my power supplies produce.

I am going to call TP as soon as they open and ask them why this was not disclosed in their advertising. It would have changed my buying decision.
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01-27-2012 03:55 PM  7 years ago
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If the max input limit on the charger is 40A you'll need at least 28.75V to get 1000W out. There is no way to get out more wattage than is put in. I'm anxious to here what TP says also...
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01-27-2012 03:58 PM  7 years ago
cshutchinson

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While I don't argue the point you made, we aren't talking about 1000 watts. I am talking about being LIMITED to 504W when charging 12s when the power supply is capable of providing more.

If I misunderstood your point, I apologize.
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01-27-2012 04:15 PM  7 years ago
Band1086

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I am talking about being LIMITED to 504W when charging 12s when the power supply is capable of providing more.
I know, that's terrible. I'm hoping that TP gives us good news about how the charger will give 1000W clear up to 14S. That would be nice as the 3010B does that up to 10S...
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