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01-25-2012 09:44 PM  7 years ago
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mustang67ford

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How about a Titan SE 30 project
Well I am debating on the following. Take a Titan 50 SE and turn it into a 30. Would be a 37 motor, 30 size boom, belt, gearing. Has anybody ever done this or considered it?
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01-25-2012 09:52 PM  7 years ago
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I would rather see a(lighter)X30B.
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01-25-2012 09:59 PM  7 years ago
NitroAl

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A torque tube X30 would be better! The problem would remain that the 30 size motors just don't have the power to take advantage of the head!
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01-25-2012 10:01 PM  7 years ago
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yes my friend did it
you get the tight feel of the se with the flight times of the 30

he enjoys it very much

any ?s pm me
no babe i swear i sold my other heli to buy this one :)
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01-25-2012 11:34 PM  7 years ago
mustang67ford

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Great, thanks. It looks like a pretty simple change. Now I need to decide if I want to modify my SE airframe or start with a lightly used 30 airframe and transfer parts over. I ma leaning towards starting with the 30 airframe with very low flights.Team HeliProz - Retired
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01-26-2012 02:11 AM  7 years ago
JPhillips

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Hey Mike, how are all those parts workin out for ya? Did ya see the X50?

I think a 30 size SE would be sweet!
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01-26-2012 03:13 AM  7 years ago
mustang67ford

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Parts are great. I seen pics of the x50, meant to email ya. That's one heck of a heli you built out of it. It's awesome looking. Did you fly it or spool it up yet?Team HeliProz - Retired
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01-26-2012 03:40 AM  7 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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I thought the main advantage of a Titan SE was getting 15 or so degrees of pitch
I set my 30's somewhere around 8 degrees so I don't (can't) bog out the motor. I think that is the secret to making a 30 perform. Once it bogs out and the headspeed starts dropping,thats where most folks claim a 30 doesn't have any power. If the pitch stays low and the rpm's stay high,a 30 has quite a bit of power.
So what would you really gain by converting an SE? Don't get me wrong,I'm a 30 freak But what else does an SE have besides 15 degrees of pitch and a long tail boom?
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01-26-2012 06:30 AM  7 years ago
NitroAl

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3degrees more cyclic, leading edge control, quicker response and improved flybar ratio for FFF!
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01-26-2012 02:40 PM  7 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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You can get leading edge control out of all of them by flipping the blade grips. All that is needed is a flat head allen screw for one of the see saws.
As for quicker response and improved flybar ratio. Iduno. Do you really think you could tell the difference with a 30? I just think you would need the higher head speed to tell the difference.
Like I say,I'm a 30 freak. But in my opinion,to actually get any benefit out of an SE head. I just think you need horsepower. Like a 55 motor. But with all that said,this is Mustang67fords thread,and if he wants to slap a .37 in one. As long as he has fun doing it,thats all that matters.
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01-26-2012 04:19 PM  7 years ago
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I love the 30's also. I do not think you will be able to use all the pitch the SE setup can give. It would be cheaper and just as effective to pick up a used Trex head to put on a 30 rappy. I know to get performance out of mine the key is to keep it light.Do what's RIGHT, not what's EASY ! !
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01-26-2012 06:18 PM  7 years ago
Neon Juripuri

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T-rex head on a Rappy I might (maybe) quit flying first
I certainly wouldn't let anyone see it. Possibly only fly it in the most remote least populated places in the world.
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01-26-2012 10:09 PM  7 years ago
JPhillips

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^ best post! I can't stand when someone outfits their Raptor with align crap. I refuse to use any of their parts or electronics on ANY of my heli's.
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01-26-2012 10:25 PM  7 years ago
NitroAl

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It would be less effective to fit a TRex head and the geometry is all wrong!

If you already have the Titan SE then I say give it a go and see what you think. If you don't like it is simple to switch it all back and all it has cost you is a little time!
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01-26-2012 10:48 PM  7 years ago
mustang67ford

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Great post bustin on the t-Rex stuff, pretty good. I too would never throw align on a rappy.

Well the Titan SE has several advantages besides just the angle of pitch. It has to do with a better head all around, better controls with push/pull, and the list goes on. I had another thread going that compared the SE. And what I leard was eye opening. Heli770 put some good info on my thread showing some comparisons.
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01-27-2012 01:40 AM  7 years ago
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I did that conversion taking a R-50SE and converting to a 30 size machine. I used the OS .37 changed out the motor mount, main gear, pinion gear, tail belt and boom. Flys like it is on rails just like the 50 SE just the power and economy of a 30. Actually, it is "the perfect 30".

One mile of road will take you one mile. One mile of runway will take you anywhere in the world.
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01-27-2012 09:39 AM  7 years ago
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Don't knock it till you try it!Do what's RIGHT, not what's EASY ! !
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01-27-2012 10:58 AM  7 years ago
NitroAl

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Tried it! It was rubbish!
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01-27-2012 12:37 PM  7 years ago
mustang67ford

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Great input Helizrule, I'll be doing the conversion soon. I think I'll start with a 30 and convert it over to the SE though.Team HeliProz - Retired
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01-28-2012 12:07 AM  7 years ago
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Great thread. I am getting ready to make a 30 out of a 50. I am a old new flier and like the way the 30s fly. Love the long flight times and the low fuel cost. I is a shame everbody is getting out of the market, but most people want the 3D helis not the good old sport fliers. Keep us up to date with the conversion.

Jimmy
Jimmy, If it looks like a heli I like it.
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