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01-25-2012 02:29 PM  6 years agoPost 1
Nycatt

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My wifes co-worker flew a mall rc plane/heli and now asked her to ask me where he can purchase a foamy. My first answer was "tell him to purchase a SIM" That anwser wasn't good enough. I explained to her that without proper training not only will he crash his plane or heli but can also cause an unpleasure situation and make it bad for all aero-modelers. Imagine losing control, aircraft heads towards a road causes an accident and here we go. Big headlines "RC AIRCRAFT CAUSES PILE UP" Well talking to her was like talking to myself as I type this. The question is are they making these Mall Aircrafts too easy to fly? Is it a good thing or bad?

PS I told her Horizon Hobby, RTF and pickup foam ca and a glue gun.




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01-25-2012 04:01 PM  6 years agoPost 2
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The hobby as a whole can benefit from more people getting interested in flying, but these mall flyers need to educate their customers about responsibility. They also need to know that even though these look like toys, they are certainly not. I once brought my MCPX to work and the first reaction I got from one of my co-workers is "Airhogs".

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01-25-2012 04:40 PM  6 years agoPost 3
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100% Agreed. The problem is that most of the sales people themselves are not educated in the product they sell. They just want to show you how easy it is to fly so they can turn a buck. They should also mention that using a Sim can aid in their learning process while being safe. I saw a youtube video of someone flying those mall helis right into his dogs snout. Poor thing....




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01-25-2012 04:57 PM  6 years agoPost 4
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Annnddddd..... ever try to find parts for a "Mall flyer"? Planned obsolescence!!!!!!!!

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01-25-2012 05:27 PM  6 years agoPost 5
Mike Fortin

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8 years ago you actually needed money to play with these cool toys, now it seems like anyone with a $20 in their pocket can get into the game.

Boo.

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01-26-2012 01:12 AM  6 years agoPost 6
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What's funny is in the past my brother and I always laughed at the kiosk selling $50 micro heli junk..you know lights all around them they fall once break no spare parts sold...
So this Christmas my brothers wife was trying to find last min gift and I seen a Drone in the mall and knew how cool these were. So she bought one and I ran it out to car to hide. The funny part is when I got back inside he was leaning over the rail looking down at a demo one a guy was flying and said "How Gay"....he didn't know how good a mall HELI was until Christmas day

That would be the ONLY mall heli I would recommend buying

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01-28-2012 05:04 PM  6 years agoPost 7
McKrackin

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8 years ago you actually needed money to play with these cool toys, now it seems like anyone with a $20 in their pocket can get into the game.

Boo.
So only rich people should have toy helicopters?

How elitist is that

I literally never use the word literally right.

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01-28-2012 05:31 PM  6 years agoPost 8
Stephen Born

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The question is are they making these Mall Aircrafts too easy to fly?
Who knows. Ask him to fly nose-in...

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01-30-2012 09:30 AM  6 years agoPost 9
Thatlumox

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Who knows. Ask him to fly nose-in...
Remember where this went last time.........

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01-30-2012 11:11 AM  6 years agoPost 10
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My first answer was "tell him to purchase a SIM"...without proper training not only will he crash his plane or heli but can also cause an unpleasure situation and make it bad for all aero-modelers....
First of all, you don't need a sim to fly an airplane.
Instead of being such a negative nancy you could advise him on a trainer airplane, introduce him to your local AMA RC club and get him set up on a buddy box with one of the club members.
I bet your wife's coworker would be a lot happier to hear something like that instead of committing to the hobby by buying a $200 RC simulator. He'll be thrilled to fly a *REAL* airplane.

Be an ambassador to the hobby. Don't scare people away.

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01-30-2012 11:29 AM  6 years agoPost 11
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You don't need a sim to fly a heli either.

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01-30-2012 03:27 PM  6 years agoPost 12
Nycatt

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First of all, you don't need a sim to fly an airplane.
Instead of being such a negative nancy you could advise him on a trainer airplane, introduce him to your local AMA RC club and get him set up on a buddy box with one of the club members.
I bet your wife's coworker would be a lot happier to hear something like that instead of committing to the hobby by buying a $200 RC simulator. He'll be thrilled to fly a *REAL* airplane.
Be an ambassador to the hobby. Don't scare people away.
I did also show him a high wing trainer plane which he is purchasing, but as for joining a club he doesn't want to pay membership fees and said he would rather fly in a park where it's free. I didn't try to scare him just trying to make him understand. Our club had a big event yesterday where there were over 50 kids and grown ups and parents inquiring about the hobby. After showing the parents the sim and having them try a sim, they saw how it can prepare them for REAL flight, and ALL understood how it can help. The club also raffled 1 hour of buddy box time.

Thanks for your opinion.




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01-30-2012 04:22 PM  6 years agoPost 13
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You said the right thing nycatt. Opinions are like A$$holes, everyone has one.

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01-30-2012 04:44 PM  6 years agoPost 14
rcmiket

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The biggest issue wit the mall stuff is no support after the sale. Try and get parts. IMO this alone hurts the hobby. I see it everyday. Frustrated buyers looking for parts. They normally just toss it and never get to enjoy what we have to offer.
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01-30-2012 05:37 PM  6 years agoPost 15
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One problem with these are everyone expects to fly them from the driveway of their neighborhood or from the parking lot of where they work. There will be lots of dented cars and helis on rooftops. You really don't expect the people buying these (sometimes rather large) cheap helis to drive several miles to a safe field now do we ??

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01-30-2012 05:41 PM  6 years agoPost 16
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I don't know. I guess I was being a
negative nancy
lmao




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01-31-2012 01:28 AM  6 years agoPost 17
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I slightly disagree, If it wasn't for a mall chopper I got before Christmas I never would have gotten up nerve to buy bigger and better things. I got a Propel Gyropter and flew it all over the house. I've been RC modeling for years but never got up nerve to do the heli thing. Figured I wouldn't have the hand eye ability to do it.

I didn't have any trouble with the little coaxial, so I got a couple of Walkeras, which I'm learning on right now. I live in the country so there is plenty of space to fly without getting in areas that are populated. So be it small and lame as a mall chopper, it was a gateway helicopter for me to say "hell, I can do this".

I used to work in a gun shop for an older fellow that sold cheap pocket guns. One day I asked him "Why do you sell those cheap pistols?" He told me" The working class poor fellow has the right to defend himself just like the rich guy that buys a colt."

Another lesson he taught me, : An old scruffy looking guy came in to get a Shotgun repaired. He looked like an old dirt farmer in overalls and crap covered boots. Earl the old store owner was johnny on the spot to help him, sort of making a fuss over him. After he left I asked Earl, why you so interested in seeing that the farmer was attended to so eagerly. He said you don't know who that is, I said no. Earl said he's worth millions, That's Sam Shepard the actor. Sam and his wife Jessica Lange the actress had a farm in Virginia not three miles from where I live. I couldn't believe just because of the way he came in I had him pegged as a clod. So you never can truly judge a book by it's cover. The shotgun by the way turn out to be a Purdy. A English shotgun worth over 10,000.00

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01-31-2012 02:54 AM  6 years agoPost 18
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I bought my first heli from a hobby shop that used to be in Niagara Falls NY, the place was called Universal Entertainment. I was a very good customer there prior. I mainly bought r/c car and trucks from him, and found myself talking about the helis he had there. I think the one I was interested in was a raptor 30v1, but I didn't have the coin at the time for it. He also carried Lite Machines, and told me they were pretty easy to build and fly. I bought the setup and spent the next few days putting it together. It was a lite machines 110. He was half right, it was easy to build, but it took me while to fly it good. I had that heli for 3 years until the motor just didn't have the power to lift it off anymore. Looking back, I am sure these cheap mall helis are much easier to fly than the POS LM that I had, and I could have had 5 or 6 mall helis for what I spent on the LM. A year after I bought the LM, I bought a JR venture 30cp, and the rest is history. While I think they can get people interested in our hobby, I think the sales pitch should be a bit more realistic, but we all know that will never happen. It may only be 1 in 10 people that buy a mall heli actually go on to buy a real R/C heli, but take 100 people that would buy a mall heli into a shop that sells helis, and you may only get 3 or 4 that would be willing to pony up the cash for a good heli. My neighbor bought a mall heli after he saw mine floating around my backyard one day. I gave him a hand getting used to it, and so far he hasn't crashed it and is out with it every chance he gets. When he is ready, we are going to take a trip to Hobby Hut together.

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01-31-2012 03:24 AM  6 years agoPost 19
bonedaddy465

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Better a mall chopper than a 450 with no experience..... I just saw a video on you tube of a fellow that got a 450 Walkera for xmass. Never had one in his life, rushed outside in his driveway with video camera of course, of a subdivision I might add and let her rip.

Bounced off the ground five or six times, flew over and hit a neighbors roof, crashed in the street. Then he goes over an sets it straight, with a cracked blade and tries it one more time and into the side of a car. About 100.00 damage to the bird and god knows how much for the dent in the car. After all that he say I can fix this with some tape and glue.

So would you rather see this idiot with a mall chopper or a professional 3d chopper with carbon blades? If he lived in my neighborhood, I'd rather he have the mall chopper, at least the kids, cars and houses would be safer.

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01-31-2012 03:33 AM  6 years agoPost 20
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My wife got my son an Airhog for christmas, I at least got him Scout CX for christmas much to my wifes disagreement. Well after a few hours of semi controlled crashes with the airhog, he can now fly the scout cx all over the house without crashing. The CX may only have fore/aft cyclic and yaw control, the airhog barely has any yaw control at all. The mall helis can not be any worse than the airhog. The best thing I can figure to do with the airhog is to strap a bottle rocket to it and see just how fast it will fly then. I must admit, I never really got close enough to the cheap mall helis to see what kind of control they do have other than the one my nieghbor bought.

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