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01-27-2012 04:03 PM  7 years ago
Stephen Born

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It might be a hobby.
Or a "Jobby".
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01-27-2012 04:19 PM  7 years ago
patrickegan

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LAPD already had a guy flying a Slow Stick long ago. They asked me about terrorism, I said there are so many other means that are easier to employ. I love using the Cracker Barrel as an example. First statement is always, "the FAA want's to regulate this?!" I know and they always whinge about money and manpower to round up the 90,000 missing aircraft or the nappy ATC guys.

I like to imagine some elected official (Downey) and the FAA Administrator (Stiller) talking about sUAS regulation.

Watch at YouTube

They shot a close up of the stick near the tail...
It reads N # here? It's 10mm high. During the ARC there was talk of me getting an experimental certificate for the Cracker Barrel. Maybe someday
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01-27-2012 09:05 PM  7 years ago
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Patrick - was that one of those $40,000 sUAS the police are going to buy once the rules are in place
You mean 300,000.00

The Montgomery County sheriff has bought one in Coonroe Texas. Thats the ammount paid through a homeland security grant. And for 300,000.00 They got an 800 size gasser with gps waypoint you can fly via laptop and training for two people.
Talk about overpricing

http://www.click2houston.com/news/N...ez/-/index.html

It was bought here

http://vanguarddefense.com/

which is also located in Conroe Texas

The guy at Vanguard even has a link on how to get Homeland security for a grant.
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01-27-2012 09:34 PM  7 years ago
Phaedrus

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Seems like a Slow Stik should be about 10% of the big gasser heli AMA Leader Member
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01-27-2012 09:41 PM  7 years ago
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This is America, I'm surprised there is not a fee to walk down the street! ..or maybe there is...
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01-27-2012 09:53 PM  7 years ago
Chris Bergen

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This effort started under Bush. I can recall in 2000 when we got a COA for a model event (you could actually get them then) that the FAA airspace manager told us that these rules were being worked on.
Actually it started BEFORE Bush, Since GW took office in Jan 2001....

The 3 way phone conference I had with my Father and the FAA also took place in 1999 or 2000, shortly after I took over the Business. Which was before the election even took place.

Just FYI...
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01-28-2012 12:57 AM  7 years ago
Phaedrus

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True, they were thinking about before 2000. However, the actual rule making process did not until after the. Regardless, the point is that this is not something tied to a particular party or President.AMA Leader Member
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01-28-2012 03:41 AM  7 years ago
Evan03

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i read the first like 10 posts and it seems you ap guys are against eachother.

now it begins is right

doesnt CA have an air tax youl need to pay that seperate fee to breath and a alltogether difrent fee to fly your ap rig. and ill goddamn call the cops if i think you havnt payed the fee.

im joking and i dont live in CA been there a few times and cringe when i have to go visit there
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01-28-2012 04:18 AM  7 years ago
Stephen Born

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seems you ap guys are against eachother.
Not at all. But this new law affects AP pilots more than 3D pilots. So there is a lot more tension regarding the subject.

It is a sore subject.
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01-28-2012 02:22 PM  7 years ago
Evan03

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i sure hope im reading it wrong then and i see the tension
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01-30-2012 04:31 PM  7 years ago
Chris Bergen

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I think you're absolutely correct Evan, there IS tension in the AP community.

And it has been simmering for many years.

There are those who believe it's all BS, that nothing will happen, that someone is trying to Scare everyone into doing something they don't want to do.

There are those that believe that a particular person or group are responsible for this happening, and have been very vitriolic in their blame.

There are those that believe that any regs are unenforceable, that they'll simply continue as before with no repercussions.

There are those that have very vocal opinions on what the FAA SHOULD do, and can't understand why they aren't listening to them.

There are those who are trying to be involved, trying to guide the powers that be, trying to use the channels that should be open to the People.

As with any undertaking, a divided group will always fail.
Chris D. Bergen
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01-31-2012 06:53 PM  7 years ago
seattle_helo

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Chris summed it up candidly and perfectly.

nick
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01-31-2012 07:27 PM  7 years ago
patrickegan

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He has a way...
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02-01-2012 01:30 AM  7 years ago
Colin Guinn

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Well spoken Chris...thank you for sharing.
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02-05-2012 12:25 AM  7 years ago
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Anybody check LA statute and if LAPD can stop, detain and arrest the flier?Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face - Mike Tyson
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02-05-2012 12:39 AM  7 years ago
Colin Guinn

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I have been stopped, questioned, not allowed to touch my heli, etc by the LAPD on about 4 occasions, most recently in December in the Long Beach harbor. One of the officers spent about 20 minutes calling and looking on his computer for something that he could get us on before eventually letting us go.

A lot can change in a couple months...but as recently as December the officer that stopped us couldn't seem to find a reason to even ticket me.
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02-05-2012 01:12 AM  7 years ago
joeskeeter

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Justia.com Some disturbing trends. Read law, not fun but some nasty **** going on.Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face - Mike Tyson
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02-06-2012 08:35 PM  7 years ago
patrickegan

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Well, its time to make a stand. Get out of the closet and say no way. I view the NAS as a natural resource and as I citizen I have a right to access it.
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02-06-2012 08:49 PM  7 years ago
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You certainly do. And the FAA has the authority, granted by Congress, to regulate what goes on in the NAS.AMA Leader Member
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02-07-2012 02:21 AM  7 years ago
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LAPD doesn't have jurisdiction. Under what code could LAPD charge anyone flying an RC aircraft if said aircraft is not interfering with anyone? Name the code in City or State law? They can't enforce Federal Law.

"Never Go Full Retard".

If i was realestate company i would sue LAPD for interfering in commerce out of their jurisdiction.

PS I live in LA. Cops have real things to deal with here. If you aren't endangering life and property they probably won't do anything. Even if they stop you and check you out, what law are you breaking? (don't quote FAA regs or FED law as LAPD does not enforce those). Does anyone really foresee the FAA sending out a SWATT team to stop a photoshoot? I'd love to upload that video to youtube.
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