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01-25-2012 06:23 AM  7 years ago
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patrickegan

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LAPD getting ready to clampdown on commercial UAS
http://www.suasnews.com/2012/01/114...al-photography/
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01-25-2012 03:11 PM  7 years ago
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I'm curious how many of the people doing aerial photography in the City of Los Angeles have BTRC (Business Tax Registration Certificate) number and pay the required fees to work and film inside the City. I'll go out on a limb here and guess zero. I think that is one motivation here. Plus the likelihood that most AP is done without the required filming permits as well.

I do business in the City of LA. My small 2-man outfit and ALL our subcontractors are required to have a BTRC and pay all necessary permit fees and business taxes. Seems the City wants to hold AP to the same standard.

There were two recent stories, one on TV and one in the paper, about the use of AP in the sales of high end real estate properties. At the time I wondered about how smart it was for them to allow such coverage, the idea being that it was smarter to operate under the radar as it were.
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01-25-2012 03:14 PM  7 years ago
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Interesting.

How much spare time does the LAPD actually have to enforce this regularly? I don't see them actively pursuing this UNLESS a complaint is made. Then, that will suck.

I guess now it actually begins.....
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01-25-2012 03:40 PM  7 years ago
patrickegan

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Call 911 and see how long it take for them to come?? I notice plenty of folks getting traffic tickets. It's all about revenue generation.
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01-25-2012 03:59 PM  7 years ago
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Good point, Patrick.

Especially in CA with the poor economy, budget cutbacks/shortfalls, etc.

I suppose it could get especially messy if someone called 911 and mentioned "suspected terrorist activity" (God forbid). Heck, you could wind-up being met by your local friendly neighborhood tactical team
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01-25-2012 03:59 PM  7 years ago
Phaedrus

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Revenue is the likely motivation. The City budget has been very tight the last few years.

Patrick, what is your organization's policy on paying the required City business and permit fees?
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01-25-2012 04:07 PM  7 years ago
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You should have all of the trappings of business including liability insurance. So many people don't have insurance...
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01-25-2012 04:08 PM  7 years ago
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Yeah, it'd probably be like the Nice Dreams movie where Pee Wee Herman calls the cops... and they only come after he says he thinks they're Iranian.
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01-25-2012 04:23 PM  7 years ago
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just charge for the ground work and give the aerials for free.
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01-25-2012 04:48 PM  7 years ago
patrickegan

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Yeah, that'd probably work with crack too. Just selling the vials officer!
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01-25-2012 04:51 PM  7 years ago
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selling the vials is legal.

actually, that is the way it is.

it might be a hobby.
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01-25-2012 04:57 PM  7 years ago
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This is FilmLA's doing for sure (among others). Right now we are a direct threat to crane and cable operator and real helicopter pilot's work.
I'm keeping my stuff 'non-commercial' for sure.. for now.
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01-25-2012 05:05 PM  7 years ago
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yes, "non-commercial".

it's a hobby...

the tough one is that if you can do it better or cheaper than crane or full scale, they want to lock you out. think about it.

a huge part of what is wrong with this country. one big scam after another. so then you have to play a game...
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01-25-2012 05:21 PM  7 years ago
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maybe they can do an episode of SouthLAnd about how they go after these nasty AP criminals.Have Rotors, Will Fly!
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01-25-2012 05:57 PM  7 years ago
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yes, and the swat team locks in on one of these criminals:

"step away from the shutter button!"

"are you doing this for free?!"

"no?, open fire!"
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01-25-2012 06:16 PM  7 years ago
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Hollywood is another very closed circuit, just like the military.
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01-26-2012 04:42 AM  7 years ago
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OK fellows, before getting too excited, a keyword search in the "news" categories of both Google and Bing, as well as the LAPD's search function do not reveal anything along these lines; try it yourself. There are some references to forums such as this one. Anything from a news source, or an LAPD source? What's up?
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01-26-2012 06:18 AM  7 years ago
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FWIW a search of the CAR website also returns no hits for "LAPD", "drones", "unmanned", "FilmL.A." and a few other words used in the release. Does kind of make you go Hmmm....

http://www.car.org/
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01-26-2012 09:54 AM  7 years ago
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I'll go with Phaeudrus, money.
And threat to cable and crane could be
a valid point.
I can't tell if the economy is improving much,
when a 131 year old company, Kodak goes BK, that sure can't be
a good sign.
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01-26-2012 12:22 PM  7 years ago
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The "News" sources lack credibility to me, SUAS is authored by Egan, other site references are either forums or likely uncorroborated reprints. Sometimes there is a financial benefit to spreading doom; and having been around for a while, this sort of report comes periodically and fails to materialize, so I chose to discount the credibility of the source. If the LAPD site makes no reference to any of this, then that key element is likely not true.

Additionally the text read that the LAPD air division was promoting this, well sorry, but enforcement, and statements about filming would likely be handled by the patrol, or services division, not the air division folks. It might sound cool, but is a bit delusional. If one key element is not true then shall we trust any of it?
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