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01-24-2012 03:39 AM  6 years agoPost 41
max232

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Thanks for the info on running 2 OS systems(don't know if I want to make things that complicated)

I have been checking out some Dell computers, I'll be researching all this week, I will decide something by the weekend.

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01-24-2012 03:52 AM  6 years agoPost 42
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Actually running two OS systems is as simple as installing the vmware or Parallels software (or use the free Bootcamp approach), then install Windows XP/Vista/7, etc.. It's a matter of clicking a button then. Really very simple and the best of both OS platforms. Extremely flexible.


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01-24-2012 04:47 AM  6 years agoPost 43
ticedoff8

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Better than Parallels or VMWare - check out "Virtual Box" (vbox) from Oracle (used to be a Sun product until Oracle bought them).
It is free, and runs on all OS's.

I ran Fusion & bootcamp on my MBP - both are okay. VBox is better. And free.

Now, I run it on my Ubuntu Linux system for all my Windows requirements.

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01-24-2012 05:40 AM  6 years agoPost 44
Tyler

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How does vbox handle video demands, does it allow full access to video card resources for a simulator?

Enjoy things that money can buy IF you don't lose the things money can't buy.

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01-24-2012 03:20 PM  6 years agoPost 45
BDIS

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Run VMWare Fusion to access your Bootcamp partition virtually for applications that don't need the extra processing power. When you need full hardware capabilities just reboot to your Bootcamp partition.

I simply love Fusions unity view. It makes all my windows apps APPEAR to run as native OSX Apps. For all the fan boys out their on either side of the argument, for what THIS individual is wanting, if he doesn't have a large budget, Windows is the better option. If he has money to burn, get the MAC.

The hardware requirements for the simulators will put him needing one of the mid level machines and they are NOT cheap.

DO not kid yourself. The MAC is a great machine, but it does nothing to foster innovation outside of Apple. It's either Apple's way or no way at all. Without PC, MAC and UNIX competing for your dollars, we would not be where we are today.

On a side note. Install 15,000 Apple computers on your corporate network and then come talk to me.

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01-24-2012 04:43 PM  6 years agoPost 46
CWALDO123

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I went with mac over 3 years ago and will never own another pc.
No spyware
No anti-virus
No stupid security updates ever day

Now it may not be the best computer for gaming but I don't use it for that.

It just works

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01-24-2012 05:22 PM  6 years agoPost 47
BDIS

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I went with mac over 3 years ago and will never own another pc.
No spyware = Don't fool yourself
No anti-virus = Again, Don't fool yourself
No stupid security updates ever day = Exaggeration. They DO do security updates. EVERY SYSTEM NEEDS THEM. The BSD system the OSX is based on actually gets security updates more frequently than Windows, which is a good thing. It means the developers are on top of their issues.

Now it may not be the best computer for gaming but I don't use it for that.

It just works = For the simple everyday stuff you are exactly right. so for the person that just browses the web or listens to music it's a great machine which is the majority of folks out there. You just have to pay a premium for it.

I'm not saying the MAC is a bad machine (I own 1 and am switching our church media system to one). Just keeping the comments "real"

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01-24-2012 06:38 PM  6 years agoPost 48
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my pc doesn't freeze up, or have the blue screen of death either =p

This is my opinion on this matter.

if you are a newbie with computers, and don't do much other then game and surf the web, buy a pc and grab windows 7.

if you are a advanced computer user, who surfs the web, plays games and does programming, buy a pc and dual boot windows 7 and Linux on it.

if your a professional computer user, and your job requires you to run mac only software and or applications, buy a mac.

I have ran and used all three, they all serve their purpose, and they are targeted at specific groups of users.

personally I prefer the pc with windows for gaming, I do graphic art on the pc also, and I program. but the only reason I prefer pc with windows, is because the cost is so much cheaper and it wont take you 30 minutes to install a program, that you had to install 3 other programs in order for it to work with.

I would highly advise against getting a mac or Linux unless you know what your doing with them.

as far as windows popping up errors and crashing on people, this is caused 99% of the time, by people doing things they shouldn't be doing in the first place, I can't tell you how many times I have fixed peoples pc's for them, to find a ton of junk on their machine that was causing the problem, they they installed or removed, because they didn't know.

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01-24-2012 06:46 PM  6 years agoPost 49
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Only problem I have with windows is every computer I've had gets slow over time. I don't get why there isn't a simple solution to this without wiping out everything and starting over.

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01-24-2012 07:16 PM  6 years agoPost 50
Mike Fortin

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So basically to sum up what everyone has said here...

Yes, Mac is the best hands down and completely obliterates a PC.

I agree.

Awesome, I made the right choice.

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01-24-2012 07:37 PM  6 years agoPost 51
WannaBe4D

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Yes, Mac is the best hands down and completely obliterates a PC.
Spoken like a true Mac elitist (aka, your average Mac user)

Most of the time, I can be seen having more ambition than skill.

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01-24-2012 07:40 PM  6 years agoPost 52
Mike Fortin

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Spoken like a true Mac elitist (aka, your average Mac user)
Thank you!

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01-24-2012 07:49 PM  6 years agoPost 53
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Next you'll tell me pigs can fly!
Or i have run 200 gal of fuel through my engine and the bearing are still like brand new

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01-24-2012 07:55 PM  6 years agoPost 54
Heliosprime

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Macs are better suited toward productivity, you can't beat a powerful PC if you're a gamer though.

If you really want balls to the wall gaming then PC is the way to go. More options and opportunities to explore if you build your own systems. All benchmarks are broken on PCs not Macs.

Just ask Kingpin.http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18282

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01-24-2012 09:44 PM  6 years agoPost 55
max232

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So, after some looking around at different systems out there, I have the urge to build my ownIs this crazy talk or a viable option?
Doesn't look to be any cheaper, just be able to put what I want in it.

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01-24-2012 10:10 PM  6 years agoPost 56
Maxx1

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Thank you very much. Will pick one up.

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01-25-2012 01:09 AM  6 years agoPost 57
Heliosprime

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So, after some looking around at different systems out there, I have the urge to build my ownIs this crazy talk or a viable option?
Doesn't look to be any cheaper, just be able to put what I want in it.
It's not crazy talk at all. You are correct about the cost, you might be able to save a few bucks, by ordering everything on line via NewEgg or other suppliers.

That is the idea behind building your own PC. Besides the fact that is a ton of fun, if you like building things. You can make it yours. I have thee PCs at my house and I've build all of them. My latest, which is a few years old, still kicks butt. It's water cooled and overclocked and it's been running stable for as long as I have it.

I can play Crysis 2 on it maxed out on resolution and graphics on a 24" monitor at 65 frames per second, which is pretty darn good for a 5 year old system. Here's a pic, so you get an idea. The second pic is how it looks like in the dark...hehe!

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01-25-2012 04:04 AM  6 years agoPost 58
Zaaaguy72

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Man, and some call us "heli-nerds!"

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01-25-2012 04:26 AM  6 years agoPost 59
duff

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I own and support MAC and PC with different is flavors.

The perfect world wold be MAC in every home but no work place. PC in ever work place but no homes.

Apple is consumer focused where as Ms/PC/Linux is corporate.

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01-25-2012 07:27 AM  6 years agoPost 60
CWALDO123

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Hey BDIS...... Don't want to hurt your feeling but you don't know what the heck you are blabbering about. OH let me guess I bet your anti mac! Heck I bet you even have a droid phone that is a iphone killer LOL

1. I very seldom get updates unless it's for itunes or some other program I have loaded.
2. I have had my mac like I said for about 3 years and I DO NOT RUN any anti virus software and I do run a complete system check about every other month.
3. When I owned a pc it was always updating the security updates from windows.
4. Oh BTY and how many of your 3 year outdated pc's can you sell for $500.00? your lucky if you can use them for door stops.
5. So you keep your PC products and while your updating every other year I'll be using mine so good luck with that PC.

I work in a call center with over 225 employees running dell pc's and our 2 tech guys stay busy swapping them out and pitching them in the dumpster they say it cost more to fix than what they are worth. They make excellent boat anchors if you can get the larger desktops. I could probably get you a pallet shrink wrapped with the Dell Optiplex if your in the market.

Oh bty try opening over a 100 programs on that pc and see how fast it runs.

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