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11-15-2011 10:22 PM  6 years agoPost 1
BK479

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hello, just had a question. I know nothing about fbl units, my question is, can a fbl unit be hooked up to a heli and still have the flybar on it? I am looking for super stability and not really doing hard 3D.

second question, say for example I have a 3G unit, wanting to put on a Gaui 425 with the flybar still on, can it be done? and does the fbl unit have self-leveling, whether your right side up or inverted.

the reason I am wanting to know, I was playing with the phoenix sim and with the Gaui 550 and I activated to fbl, still had flybar, clicked the two boxes for auto-trimming and leveling. I loved the way it flew. my eyesight is not the greatest and with these settings on the sim, I was very comfortable flying. thanks for your help and comments.

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11-16-2011 09:38 AM  6 years agoPost 2
jsenicka

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No.
3G is not made to run in FB mode

Jim Senicka
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11-16-2011 01:30 PM  6 years agoPost 3
BK479

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ok is there a fbl unit that will

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11-16-2011 02:15 PM  6 years agoPost 4
cudaboy_71

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auto trimming and leveling is NOT auto pilot. (see 'co-pilot' for that)

the auto trim/level feature just adjusts for not having your swash level during setup and/or CG being off. It's basically a trimming feature. You still have to fly the helicopter.

the co-pilot (another product) has sensors you mount on the aircraft which can detect the horizon and (optionally, i believe) altitude. With this system you can hit a switch on your TX and the heli will recover to a hover from any orientation.

Sorry, i'm unaware of any FBL units that work with a flybar...it may be possible. But, not many are marketing that feature contradicts the very name of the device.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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11-16-2011 02:49 PM  6 years agoPost 5
BK479

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ok thanks

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11-17-2011 09:35 PM  6 years agoPost 6
wifeorheli

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Bk i wouldnt do it. A FBL unit will not hold the heli in one spot forever. Maybe a few seconds. You still have to fly it and correct it. FBL system imitates the FB but imo is better cause you can totally tune it to your flying style.

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11-18-2011 08:08 PM  6 years agoPost 7
coolice

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Hey.

In the UK it's been done, an Align 3G fitted and fully working on a flybarred helicopter. I've not seen it but it does work apparently and very well, with no visable problems.

Whether you try it is up to you, but essentially all you are doing is providing further stability to the rotor head.
I was questioning about possible feedback issues into the 3G, but the model was flying and not showing any nasty issues.

If you are after a bailout feature then the Helicommand HC3-SX is the FBL unit you need. Not cheap, especially compared to the Align units, but it allows the user to set a switch on their transmitter which when activated levels the model. This I have experienced myself and it's strange that during any manouver if the recovery switch is activated the model levels itself (upright or inverted, which ever is closest) and gently climbs out of damger. The pilot still has full control, but the model is being recovered to a safe altitude.
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Ian Contessa
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11-18-2011 08:16 PM  6 years agoPost 8
Mputu

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Helicommand HC3-SX...when activated levels the model...
Wow, great future I did not know helicommand can do that.

Fly hard, Land safe

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11-18-2011 08:21 PM  6 years agoPost 9
Mputu

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I really don't think it work to to it's full potential, but you know anything possible... however if the machine is setup right it can hover is like Flybarless, of course with a good gyro.

Fly hard, Land safe

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11-19-2011 12:41 AM  6 years agoPost 10
BK479

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coolice

Thanks for the info on the HC3-SX.

And as far as the 3g goes its on my gaui 425 soon to be a 550 and it is going to be in a 500E and just wanted it to have super stability just scale flying not 3d so i think it would work for that but hear soon i am going to put a 5 blade rotor head on it but will let everyone know how it does with the flybar and 3g

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11-19-2011 12:51 AM  6 years agoPost 11
Mputu

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Great, we will be standing by.... good luck

Fly hard, Land safe

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11-19-2011 01:11 AM  6 years agoPost 12
BK479

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thanks I think we are going to video it if it works well and doesent crash on the first hover test but i dont think it will but i have to wait antell the wind calms down hope hear in a day or 2

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