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11-19-2011 08:42 PM  6 years agoPost 161
jadams

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How can you say that this model was built with little thought? Do you really think Align tests their products with anything but Align electronics? This all goes back to the fact that lipo batteries come in different shapes, sizes and weight. It would be very hard to test every battery. It has nothing to do with MA "recommending" the use of a fight pack.
My vibe 50 had nowhere to mount an Arizona regulator,at the time the most used regulator and a trex 550 won't fit bls451 servos without large spacers.

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11-19-2011 10:08 PM  6 years agoPost 162
BobOD

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I've often been surprized how many run a separate pack on larger birds...especially the pros. I think reliability is a strong consideration and a separate pack does seem to be the most proven.

Regarding them gearing the design for a nitro and gasser version, well...the electric is the first out isn't it? If they are successful at appealing to the rest of the market...well, good for MA. Doing so will take more effort, not less. You wouldn't want to see them being accused of ignoring some of their fans.

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11-19-2011 10:34 PM  6 years agoPost 163
MichiganFlyer

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This sure is an interesting topic. I thought most of the heli pilots had a nitro at one time or another and were used to keeping track of there rx packs? no answer is needed. I like the fact that this heli is built around a professional setup and a pro's flight and repair needs. This wasn't a cad engineer with a program telling him wear to change things. This has been designed by a user to make everthing less complicated and more freindly.
So the way you setup your helis doesn't fit the Whiplash, well than maybe the Whiplash fit you.
You have seen the videos of how it flys and you have seen the setup pics. So it's a setup you are not used to. It weighs more than you are use to. It has new engineering you are not use to.
The comfort box is hard to get out of.
This heli is designed around a sweet setup and you have seen even Bobby has put in the time to accomidate the other styles of setup.
If your thinking the Whiplash isn't for you, your propably right.
The Whiplash is cutting edge and new design. It is a fierce design for and by a pro that anyone can purchase.
If you choose a different setup than the recommended than it should be considered that you are going to affect COG snd it's flight characteristics. That is your choice.
Just NEVER say this wasn't designed around flying it or reparing it cause that is it's total design.

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11-20-2011 03:27 AM  6 years agoPost 164
carramrod

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Why does everyone like to compare issue's with to quality Align heli's? Fact is Align electronics are terrible. The helicopter itself is perfect. Every manufacturer cheaps out on something. If you or someone you know is having an issue with an Align helicopter and has non Align quality electronics on it then you or they is the only problem.

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11-20-2011 03:30 AM  6 years agoPost 165
carramrod

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The whiplash is not cutting edge. Same heli as all others with a different look.

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11-20-2011 03:49 AM  6 years agoPost 166
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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I've never seen a helicopter before that has the one-way inside the pinion. I don't know if it is going to work well or not, but it seems pretty cutting-edge to me. Or at the very least, it's an interesting idea.

Edit: Forgot about the Protos and the pinion/one way.

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11-20-2011 05:35 AM  6 years agoPost 167
BobOD

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I've never seen a helicopter before that has the one-way inside the pinion
Which makes room to mount the battery higher...
Which significantly reduces the energy it takes to pitch and roll.

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11-20-2011 07:14 AM  6 years agoPost 168
heli3dnewb

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I've been following the Whiplash closely ever since I first saw the info videos on youtube and have been patiently waiting for my time to purchase. One big thing holding me back is distribution around London

I downloaded the manual and read through the many posts here and have my own opinions on this helicopter. In MY opinion, out of the box, this is one bloody nice heli!

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11-20-2011 09:13 AM  6 years agoPost 169
3D Heli Ireland

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Heli3dnewb the Whiplash and other MA kits are available in the UK from three different sources, Midland Helicopters, Fastlad Performance and Motors & Rotors. This has been the case for a couple of years now. There is no distribution anymore as each get their product directly from the US so you have your pick of where to shop.

Skookum Robotics,Sav�x, Motors and Servos,Optipower,SwitchGlo,CML st

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11-20-2011 12:42 PM  6 years agoPost 170
elacitset

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Quote "I've never seen a helicopter before that has the one-way inside the pinion"

Quote "Which makes room to mount the battery higher...
Which significantly reduces the energy it takes to pitch and roll."
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Yes but now that the recommended battery position is the lower tray, that advantage is lost.

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11-20-2011 02:44 PM  6 years agoPost 171
MinAirUSA

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Yes but now that the recommended battery position is the lower tray, that advantage is lost.
That battery postion is simply an option. It is not "recommended" or "not recommended". It simply gives you an easy option for alternate battery placement if the electronics and layout YOU choose doesn't give you an acceptable CG. The fact of the matter is, with the batteries moved down to the lower tray, they only move about an inch down which doesn't make a perceptable change in flight.

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11-21-2011 12:00 AM  6 years agoPost 172
laddy

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I just noticed on pg 6 the photo of Bobby Watts Whiplash his servos are mounted upside down from the instructions. Why???
https://rc.runryder.com/rr/rrpw.htm?p=5533925&i=1

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11-21-2011 12:25 AM  6 years agoPost 173
strokermtr

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Upside Down Servos
If I recall correctly he said it was an experiment to see if turning the servos the other way, thereby lengthening arms, would lessen the arc of movement. It had no affect on flight characteristics.....

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11-21-2011 11:19 AM  6 years agoPost 174
frito169

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Cog
I don't know about anybody else but my c o g is excellent. I also use a separate receiver pack because I run hv servos with an h v receiver. I really like this heli .

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11-21-2011 12:53 PM  6 years agoPost 175
crdhelipad

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Rio Rancho,New Mexico,USA

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frito169
Cog

I don't know about anybody else but my c o g is excellent. I also use a separate receiver pack because I run hv servos with an h v receiver. I really like this heli .
can post your components and or upload photos of your heli
Im in the process of building mine,still need motor and esc
trying to get cog right without mods thx

LOS

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11-21-2011 02:07 PM  6 years agoPost 176
eo19

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I finished mine and put two flights in yesterday. I used the template that Bobby uploaded to slightly lower the battery tray. It balances well. Here is my setup. I'm running 2150 on the head.

Scorpion HKIII 4035-500
Hobbywing 120HV running VBar Gov
Full size Vbar
WR Hercules Super BEC
Futaba SBus receiver
BLS451 on Cyclic
BLS251 on Tail
Voltz 6s 4500 65c
Edge 693mm FBL main
Edge 105mm on tail

I was able to orient my packs and place my ESC up high on the nose so I didn't have to extend the ESC lines.

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11-21-2011 02:10 PM  6 years agoPost 177
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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How much does it weigh?

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11-21-2011 02:19 PM  6 years agoPost 178
eo19

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How much does it weigh?
I used laughingstill's scale over the weekend and it weighed 11.8lbs.

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11-21-2011 04:38 PM  6 years agoPost 179
Wave

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Illinois

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Well , Bec here, 2004. I went with A Bec on 14s.
About this heli. I've heard allot of things about the new ma.
Yeh. I wasn't to fond of Tim. But who was? But he did have qc imbedded in his brain, From what I heard. It's not up to par. Head design People not happy with it, put together too quick,
The well throught out frames seam to be like the show my wife watches. . CHOPPED. A food show,

Tony

misskimo, Is it that time of year when the sun never rises up there in Alaska.

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11-21-2011 05:01 PM  6 years agoPost 180
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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11.8 pounds is not too bad. Not the lightest on the market, but not the heaviest either.

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