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11-14-2011 10:56 AM  6 years agoPost 41
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So I guess that your saying that your intel people are liars as that is where the information came from in the first place?
Can you provide a source for this information? The British intelligence report on WMDs in Iraq that I am aware of, clearly stated that it was based on assessments and was not conclusive. It was Blair and his ''Iraq dossier'' that stated it as fact.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Dossier

I would be interested in the date of the source of the information you mention, as I was under the impression that your government was the first to mention WMDs in Iraq. Although I would expect that they would have ''misinterpreted'' the information from your intelligence services the same way as senior British politicians did with the British intelligence services report.

For example, on the alleged chemical weapons program, your Senate Committee report stated:
In February 1999, soon after UNSCOM inspectors departed Iraq, several intelligence agencies, including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA),25the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and the U.S. Central Command produced a joint intelligence report, Iraq: WMD and Delivery Capabilities .?per Operation Desert Fox. This assessment focused on the effectiveness of air strikes during Operation Desert Fox in destroying Iraq’s WMD facilities and programs, but was not a comprehensive assessment
of Iraq’s WMD capabilities. The report noted:

We believe that Iraq possesses chemical agent stockpiles that can be, or already are, weaponiged and ready for use. The size, location, nature and condition of those stockpiles is unknown.

2000:
Iraq has increased procurement of sensitive equipment and chemicals, some of which we believe will be used to reconstitute a CW production capability

etc...

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/...08-301/sec5.pdf

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/serialset/creports/iraq.html
Did it have something to do with their interests in their old colonies?
The League of Nations handed control of what became Iraq to the British after the Ottoman Empire was defeated, we installed a puppet Hashemite monarchy and Iraq became a country. I'm not sure how gradual the hand-over of power was, as it usually took place over a decade or two, although the Hashemite monarchy didn't last long before it was overthrown. When you say ''old colonies'' in relation to Iraq, what period of time are you referring to?
I don't know what was told to Congress and Parliament for them to vote for the war but to say that it was lies now is either BS or admission that all of the politicians involved are too stupid to know better. (I know, a distinct possiblilty!)
It's not that they're too stupid to know better, it's that they are too dishonest to tell the truth. Ron Paul is a notable exception.

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11-14-2011 11:08 AM  6 years agoPost 42
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Another thing to bear in mind is that these ''intelligence reports'' don't always reflect the testimonies of the hard working and honest intelligence agents who are the ones who uncover the information in the first place.

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11-14-2011 11:59 AM  6 years agoPost 43
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I'd like to add that it would be foolish to think that Saddam didn't have chemical weapons since he was using them to kill the Kurds!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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11-14-2011 12:23 PM  6 years agoPost 44
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I'd like to add that it would be foolish to think that Saddam didn't have chemical weapons since he was using them to kill the Kurds!
That was in the 1980s when we supported Saddam.

Given Saddam's alliance with the U.S., and that he didn't want to do anything to upset the U.S., as indicated by the fact that he asked the U.S. what it's position on the border dispute with Kuwait was before he invaded, and given that U.N. weapons inspectors destroyed his chemical weapons facilities in the 90s, most of the chemicals having a limited shelf-life anyway, it would be foolish to think that he did have chemical weapons in 2003. Particularly if all the evidence you can cite was that he used them on the Kurds in the 1980s.

Would you also care to add the source regarding your claim that ''the information'' on Saddam's WMDs came from British intelligence sources ''in the first place'', or were you mistaken?

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