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10-30-2011 07:12 PM  6 years agoPost 1
almond

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Hey guys this weekend I crashed my logo 600 and I broke the frames, Im thinking on getting the cf frames, which is the diff between the plastic and cf?? what are the main advantages and disadvantages between cf or plastic?

Im running 4500 6s packs and when I crash it the pinion hits one of the batteries, so is there any way to protect them?? does the cf frames have more space between the battery and the pinion or the battery space is the same as the platic ones??Iim using the cf bottom plate and I heat shrink the batteries to it.

Also guys I have 2x packs of 5000 6s 65c thunderpower and 1 4500 65c 6s pack pulse, the setup Im running on my 600 3d is scorpion 4035-500 kv 11t 120a hw esc torq servos and full size vbar, I think this setup for a logo 600 3d is heavy, I really dont know what to do, do you guys recomend me to still flying my 600 3d with this setup or it may be better option to get the conversion for the 600se?? also im flying 4 min is that normal at 2200 m above sea level??

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10-31-2011 11:54 PM  6 years agoPost 2
kouasupra

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Plastic frame is cheaper, works well with vibration. CF frame cost more but offers better crash resistant and the battery tray is bigger.

As for the pinion, either cut it shorter or run a counter bearing kit that RH sells.

I don't like to run anything over 2x 6s 3850mah on a logo 600 3D. I know a few folks that runs 4500mah on 623mm and like it. 5000mah is just too heavy on a 600 size blade IMO.

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11-01-2011 04:54 AM  6 years agoPost 3
Stolla

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Re the pinion you have to make protection sheets for your lipos just a piece of ABS, polycarb, carbon etc will do dont need a counterbearing for that. Carbon is nicer and stronger for sure but not crash resistant, that depends on the kindness of mother nature,nice to have but wont fly better than the plastic, some like the little heavier feeling others not but then again bling is king!
Conversion to SE depends entirely on your type of flying, if you dont fly agressive its a very nice big sky machine

Common sense may not be common after all

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11-01-2011 06:18 PM  6 years agoPost 4
almond

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the carbon idea is nice! i will keep my 600 to have an agressive setup and will protect the batt with carbon! thanks a lot guys for your help!

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11-01-2011 07:47 PM  6 years agoPost 5
Ronald Thomas

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Just like this:

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11-02-2011 07:44 AM  6 years agoPost 6
Helijockey

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laughingstill what r u using to hold the carbon place?

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11-02-2011 07:48 AM  6 years agoPost 7
Helijockey

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Sorry I meant carbon in place

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11-02-2011 11:34 AM  6 years agoPost 8
Ronald Thomas

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A small piece of double sided tape on the bottom and then I heatshrink the two packs together.

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11-02-2011 04:25 PM  6 years agoPost 9
marcosp

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I moved to the carbon frames a month ago. It's important to note that it is 200gr heavier. You do feel the difference in flight. You are using lipos in the heavy end of the range so adding the additional weight might not be the best idea.

The space for lipos is huge in this frame. You certainly can fit a 5000 lipo, but as mentioned, you won't balance the CG correctly without adding weight at the tail and it will feel like an elephant in the air.

The carbon frame has a built in counter bearing so lipos are well protected already. You DO have to use bearing loctite to adhere the motor shaft to the bearing, otherwise if slips inside, the shaft wears down and you get an awful noise and vibes. Same thing with the tail shaft, lactite it to the tail bearing. Depending on belt tightness a non loctited shaft can wear down fast and cause severe vibrations at the tail.

The motor mount and ESC plate have nice alu fins to dissipate heat, a nice addition as well.

The boom holders are ok but with the carbon boom at least it is a tight fit. I like the plastic frame boom support much better.

Can't think of anything else to comment, I hope the info is useful.

Later, Marcos

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11-02-2011 04:34 PM  6 years agoPost 10
marcosp

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Oh, there is no way of using RC Booya's canopy holders, I really miss that. The standard grommets do get loose in flight. I almost lost my canopy in the air 2 weeks ago. I HATE that.

The openness of the frame is a delight to route cables, as opposed to the plastic frame.

The tail servo alu holders gave me a bit of a headache, the bolts from each side (4 screws from the frame side and 4 that hold the servo, each pair using the same hole) hit each other and I managed to break one inside its hole.

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11-02-2011 10:59 PM  6 years agoPost 11
almond

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mexico puebla

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marcos thank you very much for your info, it was really helpful for me, at this time i think i better for me to stay flying my logo with the platic frames I really dont want to have more problems! I´ll keep my machine in the air that way! and again thank you very much for helping me!

saludos.

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11-04-2011 01:52 PM  6 years agoPost 12
Helijockey

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Thanks laughingstill

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