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10-30-2011 06:27 AM  6 years agoPost 21
dkshema

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How many of you learned to drive a car at 75 mph on the freeway by using a SIM first?

SIM is nice, not a requirement, nor a guarantee of success.

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10-30-2011 11:50 AM  6 years agoPost 22
gotnoclue

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never used a sim till months after flying and have not used it much since either, sim flies crap compared to the real thing.

how did the 450 crash with expo in the radio? should not make any difference unless you shake massively

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10-30-2011 05:05 PM  6 years agoPost 23
Maxists The Baddist

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Many of us learned to fly on fixed-pitch, no-gyro, no fancy-radio, and no SIM time helis. It can be done, it just requires understanding basic concepts, determination, and a willingness to learn.
...and after you can fly fixed pitch mechanical gyro tail you buy a 50 and say to yourself, "how can anyone crash this?"

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10-30-2011 10:45 PM  6 years agoPost 24
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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dkshema
How many of you learned to drive a car at 75 mph on the freeway by using a SIM first?

SIM is nice, not a requirement, nor a guarantee of success.
ok so you learned how to drive 75mph with a real car ?

so the question is can you drive a sim car since you learned how to drive a real car first ?
of coarse you could.

now if a person could not drive a sim car would you give them the keys to your real car ?

now i do understand that the training balls or trainer cable is a good alternative if a pilot cant sim.

so if a pilot cant sim and wants to learn before he gets a sim the training balls and trainer cable we go and if he cant do cables or balls then woo hoo $$$$$$

thank you for all of your input and guiding me in the right direction

Insha Allah made in america

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10-30-2011 11:02 PM  6 years agoPost 25
dkshema

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Point was SIM is not a prerequisite. Most people learn to fly a real airplane by sitting in the copilot's seat with an instructor by their side. Same for a real helicopter. People learn to drive cars without SIMS, but have an experienced instructor in the car with them.

Why should an RC helicopter be any different than real-life stuff?

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10-30-2011 11:29 PM  6 years agoPost 26
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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dkshema
Point was SIM is not a prerequisite. Most people learn to fly a real airplane by sitting in the copilot's seat with an instructor by their side. Same for a real helicopter. People learn to drive cars without SIMS, but have an experienced instructor in the car with them.

Why should an RC helicopter be any different than real-life stuff?
true but im just saying.

i totally understand .

Insha Allah made in america

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10-31-2011 03:08 AM  6 years agoPost 27
Santiago P

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Again I am with dkshema here.

I too taught myself with an airplane analog radio, no gyros, and lots of hydration help. Flying was a real workout.
I had an experienced 1st heli owner do a basic setup for me and out into the wild I went. Yes, I crashed a couple of times. I learned how to fixed it and got back on the horse.
I learned tons on my 1st fun fly by watching other people.

Equipment and electronics today are 20 times better and makes it MUCH MUCH easier to learn how to fly.
Borowing the line from the movie Tropic Thunder: "A nutless monkey can hover a heli these days"

Also
Many if not most simulators hover much worst than a real helicopter. If you have one, use it, is a good tool to learn a few basics; but the real learning process begin with the real thing is in front of you, with real wind, in real airspace, with real 180 degree perspective that does not end at the edge of a 18" monitor.

Santiago

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10-31-2011 05:30 AM  6 years agoPost 28
drdot

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fwiw..

I've had mixed results over the years with teaching people to fly using various methods..
Used to be sim then 50 size heli,
..... Then it was sim and buddy box..
Now it is sim and mCPx,,,,

Seriously, I still believe a sim is invaluable for forming the basic muscle memory needed to take off, hover, and land....Going from there to am mCPx has worked well for my latest victim, and seems to prove out the
idea of moving directly to collective pitch helis..He outgrew the mSR in about a month...
Now if I can just make a reset button for the mCPx.....

John.

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11-03-2011 12:04 AM  6 years agoPost 29
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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dude came over and made another happy wc camper video for me
when he picked up his 3 trex 450s that i repaired for him

i trained him on the sim and today he is hovering pretty good on the sim i gave him some training balls he is gonna put the tb together and come back over and im gonna coach him on how to hover.

somebody pinch me

thanks guys for all of your good advice

Insha Allah made in america

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