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10-29-2011 03:16 AM  6 years agoPost 1
Rogman88

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Who are some guys that you are like "Dang that guy knows some stuff!"

My first vote is for dkshema. That guy is a human heli encyclopedia. The recent tutorials detailing the history of 450's and .30 sized helis were amazing. I've also seen very long and detailed posts on how to set up Futaba GY401 that were way better than the futaba manual. Simply amazing.

It may not be with knowledge of history of helis, but maybe on setting things up, or knowledge of the latest 3D maneuvers, FAI maneuvers, guys who have flown many different helis and you could count on to give you a good opinion for comparison/contrast.

Who has impressed you?

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10-29-2011 03:20 AM  6 years agoPost 2
cstoutr

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Rog
I'm a fan of Dr. Ben, T.Moore, and Tyler. And of course, Kevin Tucker.

Team Spin Blades, Scorpion Power Systems, Bavarian Demon rep, MKS servos USA rep

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10-29-2011 03:26 AM  6 years agoPost 3
Rogman88

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Here's an example of an impressive post.
dkshema
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I remember having to reglue the swash plates or they would come apart in flight.
It took Align something like two or three years and about 85 iterations before they finally figured out how to keep the two halves of a swashplate together.

Once they figured THAT out, they built the 430L motors, and it took another round or two before they figured out how to keep the end-bells from popping off in flight.

Also, don't forget that the original 450 was a short, stocky little thing, made all out of gray plastic, with Z-bends on the pushrod, and plastic ball links that were always way too tight.

The original 450 had initial teething problems where it would toss tail rotor blades due to the excessive TR RPM. That was fixed and it became the 450X. The first attempt at fixing that ridiculous plastic swashplate had a hybrid swash, half plastic, half aluminum, and was called the 450X-V2.

The gray plastic 450, 450X, and 450X-V2 opened up a whole new cottage industry. The Doctor Dremel mod (shown earlier) involved using a Dremel tool to remove every bit of plastic not needed for the structure (those early 420L motors were anemic at best) to reduce full-up weight. Next, all sorts of mods to dump the Raptor style control setup and replace it with CCPM controls appeared. You could buy G-10 side frames from various RR'ers, MicroHeli and others began turning out CNC parts, and the race was on. It was truly a tinkerer's dream machine, and it was living proof that Rube Goldberg never really died.

The 450XL followed the 450X-V2 and at that point, the Trex 450 came of age and entered the mainstream, launching officially the electric heli revolution. And you had your choice, HDE or CDE, kind of like Burger King, you could have it your way.

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A series of pictures for you nostalgia buffs to remind you just how far the 450 has come. Odd how even way back then, the current configuration of the Trex 450 had been pretty much developed. It only took a few more years to refine it.

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10-29-2011 03:29 AM  6 years agoPost 4
Rogman88

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Another example of "Wow, this dude knows some stuff!"
dkshema
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Kyosho was one of the biggies in the 30-class helicopter, starting with the Concept 30, followed by the Nexus, Caliber 30, and Caliber 4.

The Concept was pretty good for its time, but when Kyosho quit making them, they also just shut off parts support. That left a bad taste in the mouths of many -- a decent heli, but no parts to keep them flying. The Nexus followed up, but failed to meet up with the expectations of those Concept owners. It didn't fly as well, and for many, it was a giant step backwards for Kyosho. Great Planes/Tower Hobbies distributed the Nexus, and did a poor job at it. Many Nexus were sold as combos with substandard radio equipment (bottom line Futaba stuff). Trying to come back, Kyosho introduced the Caliber 30, which was a pretty darn good heli for the day, and for the available power, the OS32 SX-H. When the OS 37 SZ-H came out, teamed with a Caliber 30, it was a heck of a machine in the 30-class heli. It almost seemed that the Caliber 30 was introduced too early, it had to wait for the OS 37 SZ-H to come out before it could shine. By then, it was just a bit too late, however. The spotlight moved on.

Kyosho quietly killed off the Caliber 30, but vowed to keep parts flowing for awhile. In the end, they revamped the Caliber 30 some and produced the Caliber 4. The Caliber 4 was crippled with a hoky, weird flybar arrangement and cheap plastic head. It's performance was not up to par with the older Caliber 30, even with an OS 37 in the motor mount. For quite a bit more money, you could GET the old, decent Caliber 30 head, but the entire heli just ended up being way too expensive. Kyosho recently appears to have given up completely on helicopters, and have sold off the line to a third party who is trying to keep the brand alive as the Neo-Caliber. They are rolling electric versions, and FBL versions. But they don't seem to be marketing in the States these days. Few marketers seem interested in selling it here.

If you read Japanese...

http://www.quest-co.jp/index.html

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Hirobo's Sceadu 30 was actually a nice little machine, much better than the Shuttle ever was. With an OS 37, the Sceadu 30 flew exceptionally well. I don't know where the Sceadu 30 went, but most likely sales volume just dropped off. Hirobo has a following, and in spite of their helis being more expensive than the average bear, sells quite a few helis. Just not much in the 30-sized market these days. Many of their 30-sized offerings have scale fuselages as part of the package.

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Thunder Tiger cleaned up with the Raptor 30 V1 and V2. You can still buy the Raptor 30 V2, just check out the Tower Hobbies site. This is still probably your best bet for a 30-sized heli on the market today.

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Gohbee was popular with a Raptor 30 clone, but I don't recall them becoming a huge force in the 30-sized market. I don't know if they are still around, or not.

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JR, well their last 30 offering was the pathetic Venture 30 CP. Built like a brick, heavy, and you could use the frame to pound nails it was so tough. But since it flew like a brick and was exceptionally heavy, it didn't stick around long. JR more recently seems to just be having trouble selling helis that anyone actually wants anymore, let alone a 30-sized machine. It seems as if their 50-sized lineup had a new, better, offering every year, but they never seemed to come up with a reasonably priced winner.

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Century has their Hawk Pro, a somewhat popular 30 heli, but as I recall, not one of the most trouble-free helis on the market. You can still pick up one of those. This could be your second choice if you for some reason don't like the Raptor.

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There is really only one 30-sized motor on the market these days, that being the OS 37 SZ-H. That is a bit scary in and of itself. If this motor goes away, so does the motive force for all 30-sized helis out there. With volume sales dwindling, I can't see a reason for OS continuing to offer this motor much longer.

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Miniature Aircraft's 30 was a cool little, all metal, all good heli. Got to see one of those fly many years ago, it performed exceptionally well. I assume it didn't get a lot of market penetration as it cost far more than the plastic fantastics that were coming on the market. It went away quietly.

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The expansion of the electric heli is probably the single-most important reason for the demise of the 30-nitro heli. The Trex 500, though smaller than a Raptor, Hawk, or Caliber, has performance out the wazoo when compared to the 30-helis. The 550 heli, which IS a 30-sized heli, completely blows away ANY 30 heli currently available when it comes to performance and price.

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10-29-2011 03:36 AM  6 years agoPost 5
CalmAir

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Regarding dkshema, +1
I always stop and read his posts. Very informed, and I like his style.

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10-29-2011 04:15 AM  6 years agoPost 6
McKrackin

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Serious man crush

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10-29-2011 04:24 AM  6 years agoPost 7
Stephen Born

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DR.BEN!!!

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10-29-2011 04:24 AM  6 years agoPost 8
KingJoeMack

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Mr. Mel if you are looking for Vbar Info.

Fly with scheduled ground contact !

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10-29-2011 04:52 AM  6 years agoPost 9
drdot

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fwiw...

Manny Lalo all the way!!!

Seriously, dkshema is right at the top on my list...

John.

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10-29-2011 05:38 AM  6 years agoPost 10
Dood

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I heard that guy Dood is a genius.

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10-29-2011 05:38 AM  6 years agoPost 11
max232

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My vote.

BarracudaHockey

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10-29-2011 06:01 AM  6 years agoPost 12
Wingman77

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Heli770 has a technical answer for EVERYTHING

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10-29-2011 06:10 AM  6 years agoPost 13
budz

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don't forget
the master builder of helis

wicked clown.

team solo

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10-29-2011 06:13 AM  6 years agoPost 14
RappyTappy

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lolz@budz

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10-29-2011 06:33 AM  6 years agoPost 15
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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Heli 770 and esco are the best in my book

Insha Allah made in america

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10-29-2011 11:59 AM  6 years agoPost 16
Helicrazy4

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DR.BEN !!!!! Awesome Man

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10-29-2011 12:16 PM  6 years agoPost 17
heliman41&1/2

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I think Ron Lund is one of the smartest, but you have to call him.

There were some smart guys who responded to my 30 size heli thread too.

Now a real, real, smart guy would know where I can get some metal main blade grips for my dinosaur Raptor v1 30/50 I am fixing.

Well it ain't lookin good for a weekend of flying here in S. Fla.

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10-29-2011 12:21 PM  6 years agoPost 18
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The good guys:
(in no particular order)

RBort
Dood
Dkshema
Dr. Ben
BarracudaHockey.

AerialSkyCam's only talent is posting YouTube videos...that we've all seen long before, seriously.

Futaba.. Always Imitated, Never Duplicated.

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10-29-2011 01:49 PM  6 years agoPost 19
heli-cuzz

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My first vote is for dkshema. That guy is a human heli encyclopedia.
+1

I remember calling Dave{dkshema}the human heli-pedia a few years back.

RBort
Dood
Dkshema
Dr. Ben
BarracudaHockey.

All those guys have extensive heli knowledge.

I am 99% self-taught so I feel to be the smartest here.

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10-29-2011 01:59 PM  6 years agoPost 20
helixangle

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dkshema
dr.ben
red_z06

these are my favs, in NO order

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Remember life is hard...even harder for stupid people

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