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10-26-2011 08:49 PM  6 years agoPost 1
adarsh_007

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Hi Guys,

As the subject mentions, i was wondering what would be more suitable to get into now if you were to start a professional AP & AV? The ship should lift a canon 5D Mkii camera.

i'm confused, Wanted to find out what you guys want to say.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Adarsh

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10-27-2011 02:04 AM  6 years agoPost 2
cmsilvoy

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I would do a multi copter...
Longer flight times, smoother flight, LOTS of options for electronics stabilization and waypoint...
With helis, you have just a few worth a damn...

Chris

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10-27-2011 10:32 AM  6 years agoPost 3
adarsh_007

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I thought the multirotors have the least flight time as compared to helis.

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10-27-2011 03:15 PM  6 years agoPost 4
cmsilvoy

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Up to 20 minutes with smaller flight packs....
Low amp draw from the packs on those motors and conservative flight dynamics leads to favorable current drain.

I can't believe that I am the only one with something to say here.

Anyone else care to chime in with practical numbers on their machines- either multi rotor or single?????

Chris

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10-27-2011 03:39 PM  6 years agoPost 5
adarsh_007

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What I heard is as follows

for octo with the canon 5d camera And with a 4s 5000mah lipo gives around 8mins or so.

A 800 size heli with the 5d camera and two 6s in series (12s) gives around 10 to 12mins and with additional two batts in parallel should give you around 20 mins or so.

Now these flight times are what I've heard or read somewhere, I've not experienced these flight time.

Guys who are using this please chime in then we'll get to know the reality.

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Adarsh

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10-27-2011 05:10 PM  6 years agoPost 6
Gary Travis

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I have been flying cameras for quite some time now and have carried the heavier cameras on all platforms.
All have teir pros and cons, my preferance is the gasoline helicopters due to the longer flight times however they due take some tunning, many will say it is time consuming although electrics will take some time to get them dialed in the way you want. Some find electrics easier I myself find them to be the same level of tunning as the gas. The helis will have an advantage in wind over the multirotors, multirotors themselves require a fair amount of tunning. I use both the heli s and multirotors in differant applications It is my experience that the more tools in the tool box the better the outcome
In my opinion based on experience I would go with as gasser first, electric second and multi third. This is my opinion, you might want to first look at the conditions you will fly in most of the time and decide for your self. As far as an out of the box camera platform I have yet to see one, all platforms will take a level of tunning and time
Gary

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10-27-2011 11:08 PM  6 years agoPost 7
jurgen taghon

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coptermotion
look @ http://www.coptermotion.eu

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10-28-2011 01:08 AM  6 years agoPost 8
tott

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Just FYI...

I contacted Coptermotion several months ago to obtain information about purchasing one of there units.

I requested a price breakdown.

I received an initial and ONLY email response stating that they do not sell the controller separate from there systems and they would send me more info ASAP. Then nothing.....for months...

In the world of Ap, having GREAT customer support is worth its weight in gold. Ask anyone who is in the business.

I am in no way saying to stay away from this company as it looks like they have a great product to offer to our community....I would just proceed with caution as you move forward....

If anyone has actually purchased a coptermotion product I would love to hear your feedback....

BACK TO THE TOPIC HERE....

I agree there is no ONE tool that will cover all AP needs. Multi or pod and boom. There are positives and negatives to each platform. It is up to each persons individual needs and wants to research prior to purchasing. This is a good place to start as there is a lot of APers here. Just make sure you do your own due diligence for research.

Just my 2 cents........lol
JASON

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10-29-2011 04:10 PM  6 years agoPost 9
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+1 for Gary Travis comments. I have been using a Bergen Gas. Over 600 photo flights. I get about 15 minutes of flight time on half a tank of gas....more than enough time. Once tuned, I never touch it except for extreme temp changes. Super..super reliable.
But, as Gary says, never hurts to have additional tools in the tool box. I also have backup electric, traditional helicopter, and I'm currently looking at multi's.
With enough practice and experience, I am of the opinion you can make whatever you choose work for you.
Customer support is a biggie. The best support I have ever gotten on any product I ever purchased is Bergen. Some vendors I have contacted don't even return emails or if they do, it's a week after you put in your question.
Best of luck, choose carefully.

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10-29-2011 04:22 PM  6 years agoPost 10
adarsh_007

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I dont want to get into gassers. I know the gassers are the best in flight time and to lift more payload. But i dont want to get into the tuning headeaches.
Its either going to be Multi or eHeli only. whats a good eheli to go for?
Thanks for your input guys, please keep it coming.

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Adarsh

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10-30-2011 01:33 AM  6 years agoPost 11
tott

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The good thing about BEGREN.....you can get your heli in electric, gasser (single or TWIN) or even turbine. Perhaps someday they may even offer that multi.....hint hint...lol

You can have a Bergen designed for front mount or one that you can attach an underslug mount to....and they ALL come with the best customer service ever....

Just my 2 cents....

JASON

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10-30-2011 03:16 AM  6 years agoPost 12
andrei

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"I would do a multi copter...
Longer flight times, smoother flight, LOTS of options for electronics stabilization and waypoint...
With helis, you have just a few worth a damn...
Chris"

I beg to differ.
My vote goes to electric helis for all around performance.

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10-31-2011 07:09 PM  6 years agoPost 13
cmsilvoy

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My vote goes to electric helis for all around performance.
Care to detail that a bit?

Performance factors including...what?

Chris

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11-08-2011 04:37 AM  6 years agoPost 14
MAVRICK

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adarsh_007
I'm kinda in the same boat. I got to fly at the 2011 SEMA show here in Las Vegas for a camera company called RePlayXD that was hired by Ford. I got to fly over the Ford cars during their demo runs out front. The problem was I didn't (still don't) have a heli because I sold everything I have for school

So a guy I know let me use his T-Rex600E for outside and his 450 Pro to film the Ford booth in the convention center( which has very expensive cars inside. Unfortunately I went to test the 450 before going inside to film and the 450pro lost signal or somthing and went in some what hard. On the good side it happened out front and not over a 10mil car

So now i've got some people wanting me to possible fly for them but with no heli-cam to do so. I am still in the research phase and i like the idea of a multi-rotor heli with gyros and GPS system but not sure how well they handle the wind. I want to get the right one but i'm not sure what it will cost to get into this sorta thing...

here is a small clip of the show. The canopy on the heli is mine that I had painted for me a while ago....

Watch at YouTube

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