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10-25-2011 11:50 PM  6 years agoPost 1
MichiganFlyer

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In 1985 when I started learning nitro planes. There was a trainer cord, a mentor and requisits to be able to do before you were allowed to fly on your own and once those where met I was given a pilot patch.
I only flew for 2 summers before the distraction of girls and cars took over and I left the hobbie.
So this spring the heli bug hit and I taught myself to hover with the sim and then the 450 in the back yard. Then I would go to the park and hover and move around a bit.
I attended my first funfly and my skill never mattered. A kind flyer when over my setup with me and we tweeked it, he hovered it and trimmed it out for my and I then put in 20+ flights with no buddy cord or anything.

Are we a "Pilot" once we can hover and land without a training gear?

Noone ever minded all summer with my tail in learning, and I even put in a 2min flight at the IRCHA Jamborie before the shakes said land.

I wonder when do other pilots consider a newbie a pilot or what some clubs have as rules for newbie heli guys to become a pilot?

Is the heli invasion so new to the plankers that there aren't rules in place yet?

Friends don't encourage friends to fly helis! It can cause part shortages.

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10-25-2011 11:53 PM  6 years agoPost 2
Phaedrus

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For me you are a heli pilot the first time you take off - hover - and land solo. Training gear, etc. does not enter into it in my mind. After that you are just another heli pilot getting better and better every day.

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10-26-2011 12:09 AM  6 years agoPost 3
aviation

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when are you a Heli Pilot
In Canada we have a blades program which is specific to this issue, The program is located on the http://www.maac.ca in the helicopter committe chairmans section. It is well worth the read and if anything just for safety and the sequence of operation. Anyone who doesn't understand and has asked this question, it is a must read

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10-26-2011 12:19 AM  6 years agoPost 4
Phaedrus

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Looks interesting. There is no such formalized equivalent here in the US.

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10-26-2011 12:46 AM  6 years agoPost 5
helijohn

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We have the BMFA which enables certifications at achieved levels of competence but to answer the OP question, I think as soon as you can hover and not crash, that's the start of your heli pilot career.

Why simplify when it's simpler to complicate.

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10-26-2011 02:53 AM  6 years agoPost 6
heli-cuzz

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I think as soon as you can hover and not crash, that's the start of your heli pilot career.
+1

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10-26-2011 03:01 AM  6 years agoPost 7
Rogman88

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Yep, hover and land in one piece is good enough for me.

High Voltage just works better

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10-26-2011 03:49 AM  6 years agoPost 8
Cowjock

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You're an pilot once you hover successfully with out crashing. An experienced pilot is one who has many crashes .

Damn that ground is hard! When's the right time to get out of this money sucking hobby?

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10-26-2011 03:58 AM  6 years agoPost 9
drdot

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fwiw..

Phaedrus hit it on the head....It's all uphill from here!...

Good luck!

John.

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10-26-2011 04:19 AM  6 years agoPost 10
swoop_g

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I think as soon as you are comfortable calling yourself a heli pilot, then have at it. You will know when you are there. Its about the time when you start landing MORE than crashing, per take off. The crashing will never stop but it will get less frequent. I didn't call myself a real heli pilot until I controlled where the heli went instead of reacting to where it went.

These are only my thoughts, I spent my last two cents on parts!

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10-26-2011 04:33 AM  6 years agoPost 11
JetFire

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I wonder when do other pilots consider a newbie a pilot or what some clubs have as rules for newbie heli guys to become a pilot?
By definition, a pilot: (generally speaking)

One who operates or is licensed to operate an aircraft in flight.

Just as others had already stated, when you have the ability to take-off, fly around and safely land.. is a pilot to me as it is to many of my fellow heli pilots. How you do so, just shows the level that your at. Other than whats already mentioned, no set guidelines in my area or the places I've been too. Having said that, Welcome to the Ranks! And I hope you have deep pockets..

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10-26-2011 05:15 AM  6 years agoPost 12
MXRACERX43

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Interesting question...

My local club was getting an influx of heli pilots last year, which was great. A problem I saw starting to arise though was a few new guys were showing up who I did not know and was not able to vouch for. I am never one to push for any kind of overbearing rules in pretty much any situation. I did feel there was a need to get these "new" guys checked out making sure they had sound machines, a solid understanding of club and AMA rules along with helicopter specific saftey practices and standards.

Not a position I was looking for but ended up becoming a "heli" saftey officer. I created a reasonable set of guidlines for a pilot to demonstrate he is capable of before he is allowed to fly unsupervised by a club instructor. I saw this a neccasary, most importantly to help prevent any accidents occuring that could have been avoided with a little supervision. And secondly to help protect all the "heli guys" in the club. We have gained alot of ground in acceptance from the plankers and one incident could wipe that all away quickly.

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10-26-2011 11:28 PM  6 years agoPost 13
PC12DRVR

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Youre a pilot after you have passed the appropriate FAA exams and checkrides, otherwise youre a flyer IMO

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10-26-2011 11:48 PM  6 years agoPost 14
Heli_KV

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For me RC heli pilot is the guy which can take off, land in one piece and conforms to SAFETY.

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10-26-2011 11:59 PM  6 years agoPost 15
AtTheCross

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Youre a pilot after you have passed the appropriate FAA exams and checkrides, otherwise youre a flyer IMO
lol, you beat me to it, i was going to say when you can CLIMB in the heli, take off and land without killing yourself or destroying the heli

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10-27-2011 12:26 AM  6 years agoPost 16
McKrackin

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The pilot is the guy in the pilots seat.
The co-pilot is in the co-pilot seat.

People who fly model aircraft are model aircraft flyers

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10-27-2011 12:46 AM  6 years agoPost 17
ch-47c

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Yep that's it. McKrackin has the most definitive description. You're a model aircraft flyer or model helicopter flyer when you lift off the first time regardless of the results.

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10-27-2011 12:49 AM  6 years agoPost 18
ShuRugal

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I would say you are an RC pilot when you can successfully control your model in multiple basic flight regimes, IE: taking off, transitioning into FF, bringing it back, transitioning to hover, and landing.

To me, the term "pilot" implies more than just hovering. It would have been ridiculous for me to claim to be a pilot when i could only hover for 30 seconds at a time, or when i had to set it down every time i saw the trees across the field start to blow around. Once i got comfortable with FF and could make a circuit both ways, i felt it was fair to call myself an RC Pilot.

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10-27-2011 12:53 AM  6 years agoPost 19
AtTheCross

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yeah figured there would be differing opinions on this, just like if the rc heli is a toy or a model.

i call mine a toy and i fly a gasser with 810mm rotors

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10-27-2011 01:04 AM  6 years agoPost 20
jgunpilot

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You're a helicopter pilot when you march out on that stage and the General pins those wings on your chest. Yeah, the Generals. The Generals who won't let the young men write the word F#$K on their airplanes because it's immoral, then send them out on missions to drop fire on people...

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