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10-28-2011 06:58 PM  6 years agoPost 41
eagleinthesmoke

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Burleson,Tx

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Looking to go flybarless next season with my N5. I was set on the cgy750 with serial bus but curious about reviews on this unit. If nothing else with this and the spektrum unit maybe pricing will be better.

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10-28-2011 07:11 PM  6 years agoPost 42
SkyfoxSXer

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Got mine today. Just started pulling the CGY-750 out of the Logo. Setup looks pretty simple so I should be able to test it out shortly.

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11-04-2011 03:29 PM  6 years agoPost 43
Pistol Pete

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Bump...

Any updates?

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11-04-2011 04:27 PM  6 years agoPost 44
SkyfoxSXer

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I got about 10 flights on the unit. It was very easy to setup. The default settings gave me a very responsive feel on cyclic on my Logo 600. Cyclic and tail response is very direct and predicatable. With the way that I have it setup it flies as good as my CGY-750. With some more tweaking I'm sure I can squeeze even more performace out of it. At $155 (Tower Hobbies Super Saver)this FBL unit has the potential of being a game changer. Word is they are planning on adding a governor feature to the unit. Mikado and the other $300+ units better start dropping their prices. Gotta love competition.

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11-04-2011 04:46 PM  6 years agoPost 45
Pistol Pete

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Thanks for update.

Built in GOV...If and when they do come out with such, this unit should have been in the field plenty of time to further validate its performance.

On a side note, I would not compare it to any other that needs a PC for programming. For me they are in a class on their own.

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11-06-2011 04:10 PM  6 years agoPost 46
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Well, so far I am less than pleased with the GT5!

There may be some bugs in the software. I set up the GT5 using a standard Futaba RX (R608FS) on my T-Rex 700N. Everything seemed to be going OK until I tried to set the maximum pitch values in the GT5's Swash menu. I can set the collective but the cyclic maximum pitch setting does nothing! The Cyclic Servo Limits don't work either. The strange thing is I can't even reduce the cyclic pitch using the TX endpoints or D/R's.

I can't fly this thing with over ±30° of cyclic. Has anyone run into this problem before and how did you fix it?

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11-06-2011 08:32 PM  6 years agoPost 47
rexxigpilot

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The GT5 manual needs some help! They don't even mention to set up the Servo Travel Limits in the "Quick Procedure for First Setup" nor do they emphatically state what this parameter does. They make you think it is about "servo speed".

I found the information I needed on the other Forum. You know, the one that starts with H and ends with k.

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11-06-2011 09:49 PM  6 years agoPost 48
bigbadflyer

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This sounds a bit sad really. I was really wanting one but not having something as simple as good instructions puts me off a little. It now gets down to having people say it works incredibly well for me to hand over my hard earned cash.....

New Zealand Helicopter Sheep Hearding Champion :-)

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11-07-2011 12:15 AM  6 years agoPost 49
SkyfoxSXer

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Don't let a couple folk's scare you away from the system. Sure, if your looking for detailed information on all of the parameters, the manual is not the best but the unit flies really good. This unit replaced a CGY-750 that I spent a number of hours tweaking and it performs just as good with the default settings. I'm sure that with some tweeking that I get to fly even better. At the price that TT is selling this thing for it was a no brainer for me.

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11-07-2011 07:23 AM  6 years agoPost 50
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Let's be honest. This unit will likely not perform quite as well as the Futaba CGY750 until it has a built in governor like the 750 has. The feedforward control logic between control surfaces and throttle on a system with integrated governor is hard to beat.

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11-07-2011 07:46 AM  6 years agoPost 51
bigbadflyer

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Even electric?? Im very happy with my CC gov.

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11-07-2011 01:46 PM  6 years agoPost 52
MrNiceGuy

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Let's be honest. This unit will likely not perform quite as well as the Futaba CGY750 until it has a built in governor like the 750 has. The feedforward control logic between control surfaces and throttle on a system with integrated governor is hard to beat.
If you are flying electric the 750governor does nothing for you. If Futaba would make it work like V-Bar then they'd have something for us electric flyers. Otherwise I'm paying money for a function I can't use. IMHO that is the only real drawback to the 750 at this time. That and that I am a spektrum flyer and would have to buy an adapter. I will most likely get a GT-5 for the Heli I'm currently working on.

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11-07-2011 02:01 PM  6 years agoPost 53
HeliBenj

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Provence, France

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Impressed
I'm really pleased with mine. I can say it flies way better than my CGY750 although this is on a TDR vs Srimok CGY. on CGY I had some bad tendencies (Wpitch pumps, bounce on elevator, not so locked in FFF). I have yet to find a bad tendency on the GT5, speed flight is prefect, cyclic I love it, great tail... I know it sounds like I'm advertising but this i indeed how I feel about it, not ;issing the CGY and vbar either, it is staying on the heli!
Waiting for gov also.
Agreed the manual has some mistakes but it's easy to get in the air with the right info and it does fly really good. A different feeling to it too.

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11-07-2011 03:02 PM  6 years agoPost 54
shihan

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Oneida, N.Y.

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tt
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11-07-2011 04:03 PM  6 years agoPost 55
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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If you are flying electric the 750governor does nothing for you.
Not true anymore. With V1.2 firmware, the 750 can be used with a "gear ratio" of up to 50:1. Previous version 1.1 could only go to 30:1. A typical Logo 600 has a gear ratio of 8.83 (106T main/12T pinion). When used with an 8 pole motor (4 pulses per revolution, half the pole count), the "gear ratio" is 35.33 (8.83 x 4). The Futaba sensor or a Hyperion Phase sensor equipped with a resistor for voltage pull-up allows the CGY750 governor to be used with electrics.

Even before V1.2, the CGY750 was being used for electrics by some with a little bit of electrical knowledge (installing a counter circuit on the Phase sensor).

Anyway, back on topic. I will test the GT5 out in the next day or so. I'm curious to see how well it works on a nitro model. I do know that V-Bar and nitro don't mix well, CGY750 and nitro is no problem, GT5 and nitro, we will see.

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11-07-2011 04:38 PM  6 years agoPost 56
MrNiceGuy

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That's good to know, thanks.

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11-07-2011 11:11 PM  6 years agoPost 57
panzlflyer

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Goldsboro,NC,USA

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I do know that V-Bar and nitro don't mix well, CGY750 and nitro is no problem, GT5 and nitro, we will see.
Funny how at least 8 vbars on Nitros all seem to work so well last flyin I went to. 3 of those are mine.
Didnt see one Fuzba 750

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11-08-2011 03:20 AM  6 years agoPost 58
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Panz, I'm glad to hear you got your V-Bars working well with nitro. That was not my experience. The blue sensor works OK. The black not so good, for me at least. I've flown V-Bars for years. I still have 3.

If you haven't at least tried the CGY750, do yourself a favor and give it a go. It is my opinion that the 750 is the best FBL system on the market right now. I was a bit negative toward it when it first came out. That was due to the lack of piro comp in the original firmware (and I was bit of a V-Bar fanboy at the time after being one of the beta testers for the governor).

At first the CGY750 may seem complicated, but it's not. Dr Ben is a big help if you need it. Many of us who have experience with the 750 are also glad to help.

Back on topic. I am very excited to try the GT5 and see how it compares to the 750 and V-Bar. I will know this Wednesday.

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11-08-2011 04:16 AM  6 years agoPost 59
panzlflyer

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I had a CGY when it 1st came out, this time I'll wait for you to beta test.

T700,450Pro,Spirit Pro,Beast+, Qav 500,Futaba18SZ

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11-10-2011 12:14 AM  6 years agoPost 60
rexxigpilot

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Florida

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Well, not a very good first time out with the GT5! I can say with certainty that it does NOT handle vibration well at all. After converting my T-Rex 700N to FBL using the Align head and GT5, I have developed some vibration in the tail. I'm fairly sure it has to do with the motor, OS91HZ-PS. In any event, the GT5 did very poorly under this condition. It was barely flyable and not much fun at that.

There were some good things I noticed. Tail holds very well even with the vibration. The cyclics on the other hand act like jitterbugs! Some people at the field thought I was deliberately flying crack style. I wasn't!

I will try to resolve the vibration issue and try again this weekend. If anyone has good settings for a 700N please PM me. Even with allowing for the vibration induced control drop-outs, I did not feel like the GT5 held well or had much stability on cyclic. I hope this is just settings.

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