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10-12-2011 04:11 PM  6 years agoPost 21
Rafael23cc

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To answer the OP, YES!

I love these kind of discussions. Somebody makes an assumption that includes ome backyard percentages, and then the discussion derrails into questioning the proportion and where the number came from.

There was a debate over at RCU about which blades would you prefer to get hit with? Wood, Fiberglass or carbon fiber. The concensus was to ask the OP as to which caliber of bullet did he prefer to be shot with. They will all suck.

Numbers do not matter, airplanes and helis are dangerous and that is all we need to know.

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10-12-2011 04:11 PM  6 years agoPost 22
Mike Fortin

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10-12-2011 04:48 PM  6 years agoPost 23
BarracudaHockey

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Yup it's 100cc and Gary you're exactly right.

I agree, the answer to the original question is

yes

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10-12-2011 05:17 PM  6 years agoPost 24
MartyH

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I think the heli has more potential for serious injury and death. I'm attentive anytime someone else is in the air whether it's an airplane or a heli. It is unlikely I'll ever get unsuspectedly drilled in the back at the field. I'm probably a little quicker than most to look for shelter when I perceive a threat. Once in a while someone notices me doing so but I don't care. I've seen too much carnage around me at our field and I don't want to become part of it.

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10-12-2011 05:28 PM  6 years agoPost 25
rilopez825

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Both are equally dangerous IMO. I fly near the plankers and have seen plenty of crashes. I have seen what a 40 size airplane can do to a car. it ripped the back seats to shreds and the car was about 1/2 mile from the flying field (lose control). Also seen a planker run straight nose in to the concrete run way and felt the hit on my field while flying my heli. The motor was pancaked.

Also Jets don't forget the mighty jets. Destin for destruction as they usually catch on fire. We had a huge fire years back at our field as the jet hit the trees. it took a few hours to stop that fire. Also had a jet lose control on a landing and pointed its nose to the heli pit area. it took a nice chunk out of a palm tree near our cars.

oh and if you strap a 450 to a table that can get pretty dangerous as well.

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10-12-2011 05:34 PM  6 years agoPost 26
Stephen Born

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Statistically, you will see 10x more fatalities with RC airplanes than with RC helis.
I am curious where you have gotten the statistics you refer to?
Not exact figure but unconfirmed ratio of people involved in the airplane vs heli hobby.

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10-12-2011 05:36 PM  6 years agoPost 27
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Proving once again that fully 70% of all statistics are made up on the spot

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10-12-2011 05:38 PM  6 years agoPost 28
Stephen Born

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Proving once again that fully 70% of all statistics are made up on the spot
Agreed. When telling a personal opinion over and over, it can become truth to some.

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10-12-2011 06:06 PM  6 years agoPost 29
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Somewhere is a video of a small catapulted jet that was so fast it was truly scary. He was doing low close passes and it was obvious if something went wrong it would be over in milliseconds. If you were drilled by this it would be lethal in the head or chest area.
By the same token, being hit in the head by a 700 size helicopter blade at full speed can be lethal as well.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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10-12-2011 07:08 PM  6 years agoPost 30
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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a 450 size heli can be lethal depending on its power source
for example 65c lipo @ 3500 rpm can chop something of pretty fast.

not to mention the power of a 500 size.

and another thing with a plane you will get hit once but if you get hit by a helicopter your gonna get a beating or sliced and diced

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10-12-2011 07:32 PM  6 years agoPost 31
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I fly giant scale airplanes, 150CC motor, 32" prop at 6,000rpm.

I fly 600 and 700 nitro helicopters, 600mm-690mm at 2,200 rpm.

Which would kill you? WHich would you prefer to be hit with?

Both will kill you, and I'd rather be hit by neither!!!

I've never seen or heard of anyone killed by a RC helicopter or RC airplane, so statistically they are both unlikely to ever kill anyone (are there enough winks to show this last line is said in jest?

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10-12-2011 07:35 PM  6 years agoPost 32
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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there has been a few reported fatality's with RC helicopters ive never heard of any fatal injures with rc planes

another funny thing if a plane spools up you can grab a wing or a tail to stop it if a helicopter spools up there is nothing you can grab on to ta stop it

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10-12-2011 08:08 PM  6 years agoPost 33
Rogman88

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In my ten years at our club, we've had three planks take chunks out of people. One two guys put hands into props, and one guy was on the recieving end of an electric A.J. Slick 3D type airplane that went full throttle on the table and hit a guy sitting in front of it at the next table. All three were preventable had people been more careful. Stitches for the first two, surgery to reconect tendons in the guys hand on the third.

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10-12-2011 08:15 PM  6 years agoPost 34
cap231ex

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They are both very dangerous and should be given the respect they deserve , a helicopter of any size is nothing more the a lawnmower without the deck and should be treated as one. I lost a FG blade off of one of my 450 size helis once in my backyard and it shot though the neighbors 1974 Chevy pickup door , all the way though it. I fly giant scale planes as well and have been hit by the prop on a kick-back and broke 2 fingers , that is why I use a chicken stick now. In my many years of flying at the AMA HQ in Muncie , Ind. I have seen my fair share of crashes , runaways , start-up misshaps , and injuries all of which never end well. I have seen youtube videos of people flying 600 size helis at public parks and I know what CAN HAPPEN I have seen it first hand. I don't think those type of poeple are doing the hobby much good and doubt if they even belong to any club or organization. The one thing I would say is treat what ever aircraft you fly with respect and most importantly be careful and be safe for yourself and others around you.

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10-12-2011 08:26 PM  6 years agoPost 35
Santiago P

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ive never heard of any fatal injures with rc planes
I have.

There's been one too many.

One's I know of caused instant death!

Is the reason why AMA lawyers ask us to wear helmets in all racing and speed events.

(like a plastic helmet will save you from a 200mph airplane inpact)

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10-12-2011 08:49 PM  6 years agoPost 36
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I think it was 6 fatalities from fix wings in the last 20 years, This was from an AMA article in Modern Aviation.

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10-12-2011 09:11 PM  6 years agoPost 37
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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i wonder how many unreported cases are out there

im sure its a lot more then 6 and helis a lot more.

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10-12-2011 10:52 PM  6 years agoPost 38
Dirt Biter

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Props and rotor blades are uncovered mincers when you think about it and both are as dangerous as the other. Props because of the higher rpm and the fact that they are like knife blade, rotor blades do their damage with the inertia behind the blade despite them not being as sharp edged.

I had the back of two fingers opened to the bone on a kick back from a 2.5cc diesel powered trainer with a 6" prop.

Conclusion? TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT as both have potential lethality.

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10-12-2011 11:55 PM  6 years agoPost 39
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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10-13-2011 05:41 AM  6 years agoPost 40
JasonJ

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I have seen enough GS gasser crashes at my field to come to the conclusion that a GS gasser is more likely to kill you than a 700 size helicopter. Simple physics. A GS plane has more mass, more power, more speed, the prop blades are fixed and at the front of all of that is a shiny aluminum pointy spinner. I witnessed a GS crash a week ago that left a hole over a foot deep in the ground, never seen that with a helicopter and a person getting hit by that thing would be dead.

Contrast that with a 700 size helicopter that has much less mass, less speed and while the rotor surely will cause damage you can't forget that the blades are not fixed. They fold, which lessens energy transfer. Yes, both would be horrifying to be hit by but I am confident a GS plane will be more likely to kill you than a helicopter. Now, if we start talking a plane that has a similar mass as the 700 size helicopter then you see things start becoming more even.

The question was which is more dangerous. It is my belief that airplanes are more dangerous. It is unlikely you will lose a finger to a helicopter because the nature of how you have to start it and handle it prevents that. More people who should really not be flying any more (old people, sorry) fly airplanes, have bad vision, poor reflexes, never seem to want to replace their 10 year old RX battery and the planes goes bat****. How many 85 year old helicopter flyers does anyone see? Me, none but almost every weekend I scuttle my chunky butt towards overhead cover when a codger loses control and presents us all with opportunities to check our reflexes.

It isn't the airplanes fault it is more dangerous, it's the users...

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