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10-14-2011 03:31 PM  6 years agoPost 41
jhheli

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Very nice Puma.

Sponsored By: Kontronik, Prc, Pulse, Cano Mod

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10-14-2011 07:08 PM  6 years agoPost 42
kcordell

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AUW is between 11-12lbs depending on how accurate (or calibrated) your scale is and what batteries you are using.
BUT, as stated so many times before, weight really isn't an issue with the power of the electric motors being used today.

Team Futaba, Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, Team Castle Creations, YS Engines, VelTye

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10-14-2011 10:07 PM  6 years agoPost 43
cudaboy_71

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not to beat a dead horse, but i can definitely feel the difference between a 10.5lb machine and a 12lb machine. yes, there is almost unlimited power on tap these days. but, changing direction still means a lot of inertial changes---that's where *I* feel it. so, while others may say it doesnt matter, i think it does. everything else being equal, i'd rather fly a 10.5 lb heli over a 12lb. so, that's how i shop.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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10-14-2011 10:19 PM  6 years agoPost 44
OICU812

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yes a pound to two is a BIG difference, flight time, overall performance varies greatly depending on weight no matter what anyone says it's not magic it's simply reality.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-14-2011 10:37 PM  6 years agoPost 45
Mike Fortin

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People will only here what they want to hear, what's been said is that the Whiplash "COULD" top out at 12lbs, mine is at 11lbs so it depends on what equipment your running.

Knowing Bobby and how he flies, he designed the helicopter to suit his flying style which as many people know is a combination of not only low smack but also big and fast maneuvers.

If your flying as hard as Bobby, then it's obvious that the model is very good and will start and stop on a dime. Now if your flying harder than Bobby and concerned on how the model will hold up.... then you should be XFC Champion.

Having put several flights on the Whiplash this week, I can say that they model is uber responsive, stars and stops on a dime and an get it done both low and hard as well as big and fast.

With motors now pushing 12hp and soon to be pushing 15hp or more....I'd hate to see how a 10lb model would handle 12-15hp.

Also, the 700E weights in around 12lbs and we certainly haven't seen any disadvantages with that model.

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10-14-2011 10:48 PM  6 years agoPost 46
OICU812

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Disadvantages of 700 Rex is that you still to date need to use a set screw to hold the one way from losing it's grip

Things aside MA is good quality no one debated that. We'll see how non adjustable mesh, the weight etc all plays in hands of non reps and common pilots. Ambient temps make a huge difference as well not everywhere is as warm and constant temps as southern USA.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-14-2011 10:56 PM  6 years agoPost 47
philip 01

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why did fortin just get jacked. would like more of his info on the whiplash. got one on the way.

WTF!!!!!!

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10-15-2011 12:26 AM  6 years agoPost 48
raildog

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whiplash
Hey mike what size packs you running,head speed,and flight time.

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10-15-2011 03:03 AM  6 years agoPost 49
epc2

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Miami , Fl./S.Domingo.

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MA are great machines there's no doubt about that , My first 90E machine was an Ion x which I enjoyed a lot back in the Neu/Hacker 10s days , actually I sold my spare Ion to Shawn and I know he also enjoyed it a lot, I also had a Stratus and Spectra because I like their quality.

But problem with MA has always been the weight (Razor was a pig, Furion is nice but heavy also+- 9 lbs), If the Whiplash comes @ 11 lbs it ain't that bad but I'm sure it'll be more than that ,Bobby clearly says on his video 11.75 lbs , don't compare this to a Trex 700 , the Trex is a Pig ,yes it flies hard but anything can fly hard at higher rpm's at the cost of short flightimes.

IMHO after flying a few 90 machines some heavier some lighter , the sweet spot is 10.5 -10.75 , that just my opinion.

Since I'm sport mild 3d flier and I'll never compete , I'd rather fly longer and have a lighter model.

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10-15-2011 05:49 AM  6 years agoPost 50
HeliWholesaler

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Billings, MT

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What 90 size E models weigh in at 10.5lbs on the pad ready to fly?

Not conversions, not stretch kits... just pure 90 size models?

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10-15-2011 05:52 AM  6 years agoPost 51
OICU812

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TDR, Minicopter Diabolo, SAB Goblin, Synergy E7, Raptor E720 all under 10.5lbs rtf and the Compass 7HV is as well under 11 lbs, so as of now the new whiplash is about the heaviest with the 700E Rex.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-15-2011 05:58 AM  6 years agoPost 52
philip 01

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just install a bigger motor. a big'un...

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10-15-2011 05:59 AM  6 years agoPost 53
HeliWholesaler

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There is no doubt that if one wanted a 10.5lb Whiplash they could do it. 8 ounces doesn't make a difference when your talking about 12HP.

Put a fat guy in a Ferrari and it ain't going to make any difference.

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10-15-2011 06:00 AM  6 years agoPost 54
OICU812

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Yes I know,, but,, with great power comes the loss of flight time and momentum in the air. Again I've always loved MA stuff but this one I'm going to sit out on till more people get their hands on it, a few things I don't see as being solid ideas, but that's just me opinions are like A holes right..

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-15-2011 06:01 AM  6 years agoPost 55
philip 01

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just add more COWBELL!

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10-15-2011 06:02 AM  6 years agoPost 56
OICU812

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HW... I have those models, or have good friends with exact components on them so those are facts not fiction and its not a matter of splitting hairs on what components are in them, it is what it is. Anyhow once the NON reps and regulars have em we'll all know and hopefully all thats been said is true, we'll see.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-15-2011 06:05 AM  6 years agoPost 57
philip 01

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not more drama. please. who really gives a f--k at the end of the day.

geeze. c'mon, it's not like it's a crusade of some kind. just pick strawberry or chocolate and move on.

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10-15-2011 06:23 AM  6 years agoPost 58
OICU812

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What drama? Is no one allowed to point out the obvious? Apparently not. Only drama I've noticed lately is that some forums are stuffed full of reps arguing or defending things, HENCE wait till the norms get it, and if it's all thats said to be then 100% proof prevails and everyone is happy. If NOT then well, change it or don't sell many, simple really. What I find ODD is that so many new machines coming out, yet not one of them is "all around", "flexible" etc.. I understand all the workings in design etc, but I would think many have been at the game long enough to have the "simple" options in the new designs, nothing more feelers getting hurt over nothing really.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-15-2011 06:56 AM  6 years agoPost 59
philip 01

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i'm a 'norm' and have one coming to replace the logo se so i can run the larger motor i have.

the part of the hobby i dislike is the drama, hating, and catfighting which was why i instituted the 'new rule' in our fairly large and very active flying group.

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10-15-2011 07:02 AM  6 years agoPost 60
OICU812

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well philip look forward to your flight notes and setups, knowing your past setups it will be setup to be a "balla" lol.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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