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10-11-2011 03:06 AM  6 years agoPost 21
fastflyer20

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+1 on Align if wanting a very good flying 50/600 nitro heli with tons of available upgrades from many different companies. Be prepared for significantly higher crash costs. When a bigger heli hits the ground, more damage is done due to the greater weight. A set of blades alone are $90 and rarely survive a "good" crash. Most 500 crashes never even get close to a total of $90.

Not to discourage you, but just to make you aware of the costs.

The bigger the heli, the better they fly.

BTW 30% nitro is around $30 a gallon, you will get approximately 12 flights per gallon ranging from 6-8 minutes depending on engine and head speed. A good weekend is when you burn 1 to 2 gallons!

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10-11-2011 05:56 AM  6 years agoPost 22
racer034life

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OK...so no one had any comments on the Ely Q 90 or 50. I like either helicopter due to there readyness. From basic flight to 3d flying. I do like the trex500. But its due to the upgrades. P.s damn I really want an ely q 90.....maybe...thus year may be my year from the wife.lol

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10-12-2011 03:16 AM  6 years agoPost 23
zoot408

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okay +2 ElyQ
I have a Vision 90 (up for sale I might add) that flies like a dream, and has to be the best of my fleet to work on!

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10-12-2011 07:49 AM  6 years agoPost 24
racer034life

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pm me photos and a price....

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10-15-2011 01:05 AM  6 years agoPost 25
Ladymagic

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already own a nitro 1/8 nitro buggy...so the motors aren't my issue. Its the speed at which the head spins. Head speed just slseems faster that's all....
racer034life,
If you are referring to the fact that nitro helis run higher headspeeds versus electric ones, then you may have been misinformed. Actually E-helis run about 500-1500rpms higher than their nitro counter parts of the same make and size. Nitro engines tend to choke out or malfuction if you constantly overspeed them. Personally, I prefer nitro machines over e-machines due to battery costs, shorter flight times, and the occasional rogue lipo that starts on fire in an attempt to burn you out of house and home. But, that arguement has been beaten to death several times on this forum and I'd rather not stir up emotions on the subject all over again.

I do fly both the Align 500e and the Align 550e and I do have some experience with the clones you are speaking of. My 500 has performed flawlessly since 2008 and the 550e does well mechically as well although I'm not as happy with the 3G as I thought I would be. As far as your original question goes, the answer really depends on what your expectations are. If you just wanna train or be a casual flyer, then the HK "should" work fine. However, if you really plan on being a serious flyer and stick bang alot, I'd go for the Align. I don't consider myself an Align spokesman/woman, but I do believe in the addage that "you get what you pay for" when it comes to RC. I've witnessed budget savy guys having horrible experiences and just quitting the hobby all together just becuase they wanted to save a few bucks. In most cases, the basic HK frame will work just fine, but the mechanics quality is where the HK falls short. Bearings wear prematurely, hardware and metal component quaility is lower. That is how they are able to keep their prices so low. I don't think you'd want to be hovering and have a spindle or critical bolt break loose in flight...not fun.

But, the more you demand from your machine, the more you'll notice the lesser quaility clone components don't hold up as well and you'll end up spending more money replacing those parts frequently with better parts. Poor quality parts can really put a damper on your overall fly experience especially, when you are just trying to get enough time on the sticks to progress and it's your only heli. You don't want to spend 80% of your time at the bench instead of flying, becuase you want to be cheap. But, that's just my thoughts on the matter. I'm sure you'll make the best decision based on what you want, just keep in mind that spending a little bit more now might save you alot more money and time down the line. Good luck, fly safely, and as always, have fun!

Mellisa

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10-15-2011 07:25 PM  6 years agoPost 26
racer034life

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Thank you....I just left my Local flying field.....LOl which is my backyard for now. But I have I have my choices...Either the Trex 500e or 550e Or the trex 600n or the elyQ 50 or 90. I like the ElyQ 90 alot but I think it maybe to big of a bird,....So now who is selling a ElyQ 50 or any of the above heli's for sale.....p.s I just want air from and maybe misc other parts....

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10-21-2011 11:44 AM  6 years agoPost 27
wc_wickedclown (RIP)

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only thing that sucks on the clones are the shafts and dampers easy fix.

when a clone has the same electronics and blades as a retail bird

you will not notice any difference.

and id rather take chances with a budget bird then a polished out quality bird with 50 dollar blades and 200 dollar head unit and 60 dollar servos.

when you buy cheap you are less afraid of crashes.

but if you got cash to throw away or your close to rich then do as the rich do buy quality.

Insha Allah made in america

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10-22-2011 01:50 AM  6 years agoPost 28
Ladymagic

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racer034life,

If you are interested, I do have an Aurora90N airframe if you want it. This heli was built in July of 2010, but it's only flown 4 times since then. I build my heli well, but I did notice a vibe that I haven't isolated yet. Probably just need to runout the clutch and the fan. I am selling it becuase I just like my 700N better....less parts and very reliable.

Anyways, if you are interested, just PM me, I'll give you a good price for the Just the airframe.

Mellisa

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10-22-2011 10:44 PM  6 years agoPost 29
racer034life

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Ladymagic I feel like that airframe maybe to much for me

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11-14-2011 09:31 PM  6 years agoPost 30
Stephen Born

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Here are words to remember when buying clones.

GOING CHEAP CAN BE EXPENSIVE!!

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11-14-2011 09:54 PM  6 years agoPost 31
Ladymagic

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racer034life,
I feel like that airframe maybe to much for me
Nah, I don't think so. It's a fancy setup, but it's no more intimidating that any other smaller heli on the market. But, I do understand your concerns. This heli flies well and many owners really enjoy it. If you are worried about it getting away from you, you can always dail the head down so it's more stable. For me, the head is what makes the Aurora a good flying machine.

Now where I think the Aurora does fall short is its mechanical simplicity. In an effort to be innovative (I guess), I feel like CX over engineered certain areas needlessly. This thing is pinned everywhere when a simple shouldered bolt could do the same thing as one example. That really detracted from the build enjoyment because the pin would be too tight or too loose sometimes. I don't want to take a sale away from myself, but I do feel that I should be honest with a potential buyer as that's what I'd like if I were buying something for some one else too.

Anyways, if you are interested, just let me know. We can work out a good deal for you. It'll be a good heli to train on and it will grow with you as you advance through the hobby.

Mellisa

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11-15-2011 01:05 AM  6 years agoPost 32
Ausable

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You have gotten very good advise from several others here on Run Ryder. I have been getting a lot of help from everyone when it comes down what to do.
I have had cheap heli's in the past and it doesn't pay. Parts are cheaper but they aren't as strong etc. You are better off spending a little more and you won't be dissapointed.This is a very expensive hobby and takes a lot of time to fly. The T-Rex500 is very good and if you can get a Vbar it will be more stable and less repairs if you crash. I myself is a newbie but there is always something to learn about.There are so many good helis but it depends on what you can afford. See the larger helis flies nicer but the repairs are more costly.
Good luck with your decission.

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