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10-28-2011 12:37 PM  7 years agoPost 121
Avi

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No horizontal fin to be seen?

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10-28-2011 01:46 PM  7 years agoPost 122
kcordell

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That is correct, no horizontal fin.

Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, YS Engines, VelTye

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10-28-2011 08:59 PM  7 years agoPost 123
ohiobowhunter

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OH HELL YEA !!! I got a tracking # for my Whiplash

I AGREE AND SO DO I

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10-29-2011 08:07 PM  7 years agoPost 124
BOOGIE

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Ok so the Trex has a 630cc tank and the Whiplash has a 32oz tank. So how maney cc's in a oz? Trying to get my head around how much bigger my new tank will be

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10-29-2011 08:09 PM  7 years agoPost 125
BOOGIE

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found it 1 Ounce = 29.5735296 Cubic Centimeters
So the Whiplash has a 946.24 cc tank if my math is right.

MSH USA / Lynx Heli Innovations

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10-29-2011 09:59 PM  7 years agoPost 126
FlytilyaDrop

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To start off please excuse me and don't take this wrong, but someone tell me what makes this line of heli be worth the amount its being sold for.

I say this due to a much simpler design and less parts than previous models, and how other company's have proven you can sell for way less with simple designs and fewer parts.
With very good quality outcome, case in point to mention one the latest Velocity brand.

With the economy the way it is you would want to concentrate on price in my opinion.
I waited to see what MA was going to do with the new 90 size line and in no way can I afford to justify paying a grand for a heli where you can buy a velocity 90 for around 650 if you shop around.

I will always own and keep my MA's I have now and would never cut down MA in any way, but why oh why or how or what is it about the new MA line that justifies the $1000.00 price tag.
Someone please chime in with professionalism to my point and without stupid replies, someone convince me how by spending more for a heli with fewer parts and more simple design makes sense, what am I missing here.

Thanks in advance.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-29-2011 10:19 PM  7 years agoPost 127
no1gsxrman

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Firs of all I just want to stat that I am not a profesional. This is just my oppinnion. I think that the price difference is because it is made in America and not in some third world country in a sweat shop. Second it uses better material. By saying that I mean all aluminum is not the same there are different grades. The same goes for metal. Some people are complaning about the 10mm mainshaft and the 9mm spindle. It all goes to cost and grade of metal. If it is of Better quality you need less of it. An as far as price goes I think it is right on par with all the new 700 size birds out there. Like kasama, shape, raptor,and gobblin. There is almost a $100 spread between them. That To me is not a lot. And you are supporting the economy here.

Put the woman and children to bed it's time to go fly!

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10-29-2011 10:33 PM  7 years agoPost 128
FlytilyaDrop

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MA whip nitro 90 flybared cost from what I gather is $1049.00 plus shipping.

Outrage Velocity 90 nitro flybared shipped to my door $650.00.

So I see here a $450.00 diffrence not $100.00

I would guess some people will be able to get a saving better than $1049.00 on the MA as well thou, but still not 100 diffrence.
And Im sure many other brands fit my same situation, its just I am posting based on what I own.

And owning a Velocity I do know the metal is just as good as a quality as my MA's.

Never have I seen a report from any company showing how their CNC is better than the nexted, its just always stated, or someones opinion.

I just see based on what I own.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-30-2011 12:24 AM  7 years agoPost 129
ddavison

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1 oz. = 29.57 cc

DaveDavison,GasGob,WhiplashGas,Spectra,JRXG11MV,12X

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10-30-2011 01:56 AM  7 years agoPost 130
Carey Shurley

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and would never cut down MA in any way, but why oh why or how or what is it about the new MA line that justifies the $1000.00 price tag
Okay so if this is true, why aren't you asking what justifies the cost of a:

srimok = $1,290
shape = $1,469
TT G4 = $1,099
Synergy N9 = $1,068
Hirobo Turbulence = $1,469
JR Vibe SG = $1,484
etc, etc

I would think that if you weren't doing an Outrage commercial your question would probably have been more along the lines of why are there a bunch of high end helicopters out there that cost more than a Velocity and what is the value proposition over what I have.

Proprietor - Gas Powered Helicopters

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10-30-2011 02:03 AM  7 years agoPost 131
hotrodvigor

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Yea thats a great point and you havent even started on the insane cost of parts for the SG or the N9... Holy F!

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10-30-2011 02:13 AM  7 years agoPost 132
ohiobowhunter

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"MA whip nitro 90 flybared cost from what I gather is $1049.00 plus shipping"

My whiplash ELE. FBL cost 899.00 shipped from Ron's Heliproz south, I would think the nitro would be similar priced ,as for difference in quality IDK yet mine comes wed.but after owning Align,thunder tiger and Jr helis I believe its time to start supporting my fellow Americans as much as possible....to much of our hobby is outsourced in other country's as it is. personally I'm willing to pay a little more for an American kit. Just my 2 cents

I AGREE AND SO DO I

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10-30-2011 03:05 AM  7 years agoPost 133
MinAirUSA

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It is true that the nitro and fly barred model are more expensive than the electric and FBL versions, the reason? The cost to manufacture is more expensive, as there are more parts.

The prices of our models are more than others simply because it costs more to manufacture a model helicopter kit out of high end materials here in the U.S. We feel that when all factors are considered, you definately get what you pay for with X-Cell.

We stand behind an old motto from years ago...X-Cell, STILL the best value in the industry!

Miniature Aircraft

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10-30-2011 03:08 AM  7 years agoPost 134
FlytilyaDrop

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Okay so if this is true, why aren't you asking what justifies the cost of a:

srimok = $1,290
shape = $1,469
TT G4 = $1,099
Synergy N9 = $1,068
Hirobo Turbulence = $1,469
JR Vibe SG = $1,484
etc, etc
If I owned an Align I would be using align to state my point, its just that I own an Outrage, dont forget to re-read my post, I would never get rid of my MA's, oopps I just avertized for MA their,,
This is a good point you make, BUT that is a very small market place is for those high priced heli's, very small, how many do you see on here for sale listed above verses MA, Outrage, align, etc.

Its not how much you make on one heli, its the crash parts, this goes for all things in the market place.
If I just bought a Velocity and the new MA, I would never do things on the MA that I would do on the Velocity due to crash parts cost, and due to the up front cost to buy the new MA.
I feel I represent the majority of the market that in order to stay in the hobby we need to keep our cost down do to how much we crash.
YES I do crash but I limit what I do with a more expensive heli leading to less crashes.
If I was to crash my Velocity I wouldnt hardly care do the cost to get it back into the air.
Now Im sure this goes for other low cost companies that heli's fly great for the ave joe just as a top of the line for a better pilot.

The ave joe to me and my opinion the largest part of the market for large nitro, ele, and gas line.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-30-2011 03:20 AM  7 years agoPost 135
FlytilyaDrop

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MINAIRUSA,,,,,

I would be the first to agree with you about the caddy of the sky has always been in my eye's the MA.

BUT I only speak about the majority of the market, do you beleive the majority of the market will buy into a 1000 heli off the shelve instead of a 3/4 the cost heli, (saving money) knowing they will eventually crash it, crashing is more than half the hobby, regardless if it has mainshaft of better metal that will get bent one day anyway.

Just today not hyping up Velocity or any other brand in any way but just due to the fact I own a Velocity I am able to compaire it with the MA and just today I flew MA's all day till the end of the day when I broke out the Velocity and I will admit I had a grin on how well she handled, and feeling MORE comfortable flying it closer to the ground knowing It would not matter to push my limits with a heli of lower cost of crash parts.

If I am missing a point please by all means correct me.
No Ive not flown the new MA but I just cant go to my wife and say hey Im going to go spend an extra 350 to 400 more for a MA that I do love but will keep me from getting more crazy with it like I do with my Velocity.

I feel like I speak for a lot of ave joe's that want to progress but dont do to the fear of crashing and the cost associated with it.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-30-2011 04:21 AM  7 years agoPost 136
HeliAdict

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Flytilyadrop..

May I suggest you buy what you like and we will by AMERICAN.

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10-30-2011 04:58 AM  7 years agoPost 137
FlytilyaDrop

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May I suggest you buy what you like and we will by AMERICAN.
Its not about what Im going to buy its about what the ave joe can afford to stay in this hobby and progress in flying.

And trust me until US industery relizes that it charges to much for what we all buy and all the rest of the crap we deal with from the goverment the ave joe is going to be forced to buy from overseas.

If what I say is not true the MA would be 100% American, but learning from my line of work the materials that make the MA are more overseas than you think in my opinion.

Oh Im sure I'll own the new MA nitro 90 FB one day, but it will be here on the classifieds under used or newer used for closer to half the price of retail, let the rich boys pay the diffrence.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-30-2011 05:31 AM  7 years agoPost 138
elacitset

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FlytilyaDrop, sounds more like you have a problem with people of means (or as you say "Rich Boys" then with Min Air prices. This is a hobby, not a necessity. Nobody's entitled to anything, if you simply can't afford a Min Air machine, buy an Align!

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10-30-2011 05:49 AM  7 years agoPost 139
FlytilyaDrop

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sounds more like you have a problem with people of means
Im not saying Im not a person of "means", I make my fair share and doing well, I guess Im saying more like people of means that have no sense.

I will admit I like it when the people of "means" as you put it, dont realize or have any sense and they help me a person of means keep more green in the bank.

So in a way Im now seeing how important it is to tell everyone you should buy the new MA, not just one buy two, you wont be disapointed, I mean everyone that wants a quality heli should buy one or two,,,,,, and when any of you get ready to sell one used or what have you, just let me know.

This hobby sucks, when your not flying.

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10-30-2011 05:53 AM  7 years agoPost 140
elacitset

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Ok now you're just wasting bandwidth and getting off the topic! Moving on....

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